Dropped third strike?

[KJUmp]

Rita maybe inexperienced/new to umpiring softball and not yet up to speed on all the intricacies and nuances of the rules and terminology of the game. But she is an experienced baseball and basketball official who, while perhaps new to the Softball board, posts on both the Baseball and Basketball boards of this Forum in a manner that always reflect not only a genuine desire to become a better official but also a high level of respect for the sports she officiates, the rules and fellow officials.
Glad to see you're getting involved in softball Rita. The sport needs good umpires no matter what level or rule code. Good luck.

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Rita maybe inexperienced/new to umpiring softball and not yet up to speed on all the intricacies and nuances of the rules and terminology of the game. But she is an experienced baseball and basketball official who, while perhaps new to the Softball board, posts on both the Baseball and Basketball boards of this Forum in a manner that always reflect not only a genuine desire to become a better official but also a high level of respect for the sports she officiates, the rules and fellow officials.
Glad to see you're getting involved in softball Rita. The sport needs good umpires no matter what level or rule code. Good luck.

And if you ask me, she's kind of cute!!!

[ronald]

I suggest crucial conversations. a lot of narratives going on and not genuine dialogue.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by ronald

I suggest crucial conversations. a lot of narratives going on and not genuine dialogue.

Okay, we are talking about something that has an origin which predates baseball or softball, but I'll start.

2 outs. 2 strikes on batter. No scoreboard, players not paying attention to umpire.

Uncaught third, batter doesn't run. Ball is thrown back to pitcher who gets on the rubber because she thinks there is another pitch. Coach, who is aware of the count, yells at pitcher to throw to first, which she does without disengaging rubber.

Well, for starts, why isn't the PU standing away from the plate with the mask removed awaiting a play? That isn't a batter standing there, it is a BR and a play imminent and the umpire's actions should be eminent.

This being the case, I'm with the blue from Nassau County (presumedly), there is no pitch to be had until the previous play is complete.

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

And if you ask me, she's kind of cute!!!

AWH gee. So are you.

Rita

[MD Longhorn]

I don't really care whether you've used the right words here or which sport you started working in...

There is NO RULE SET, in either sport, in which the infielder who happens to be near the center of the diamond (aka the pitcher) is penalized for touching the object from which he or she normally pitches when throwing to first base in order to retire a batter-runner. (Honestly, I'm surprised an experienced umpire in EITHER sport would even consider this a problem for even the shortest of moments).

Hopefully someone somewhere will recognize that you, the umpire, have moved out from behind the plate and it will be obvious to SOMEone that there is no eminent pitch.

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I don't really care whether you've used the right words here or which sport you started working in...

There is NO RULE SET, in either sport, in which the infielder who happens to be near the center of the diamond (aka the pitcher) is penalized for touching the object from which he or she normally pitches when throwing to first base in order to retire a batter-runner. (Honestly, I'm surprised an experienced umpire in EITHER sport would even consider this a problem for even the shortest of moments).

Hopefully someone somewhere will recognize that you, the umpire, have moved out from behind the plate and it will be obvious to SOMEone that there is no eminent pitch.

But that's part of the learning of the sport: Just how literally does one take parts of the ruleset.

I now know one must be VERY careful on the terminology.

Rita

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rita C

But that's part of the learning of the sport: Just how literally does one take parts of the ruleset.

I now know one must be VERY careful on the terminology.

Rita

Well... completely literally ... but in context - and with proper definitions in mind. What rule in what set do you see that can be misinterpreted to mean what you implied it to mean in the OP?

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Well... completely literally ... but in context - and with proper definitions in mind. What rule in what set do you see that can be misinterpreted to mean what you implied it to mean in the OP?

Not sure what you are asking. But I think you know that it simply says in the NFHS rule book that the pitcher is not to throw to a base when in contact with the pitching plate. It does not say: Unless making a play on a BR.

Rita

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rita C

Not sure what you are asking. But I think you know that it simply says in the NFHS rule book that the pitcher is not to throw to a base when in contact with the pitching plate. It does not say: Unless making a play on a BR.

Rita

The pitcher is not "the pitcher" at this point. He's just an infielder making a play during a live ball.