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You can try to use mathematical properties to add or subtract 90 degrees from any of these angles (I prefer pi/2, I was always more of a trig guy) but they are all the same. Imagine it this way: There are 4 imaginary quadrants associated with points A, B, C, and D. When you are standing at any of those points, you are in a certain quadrant and it is impossible for your angle to be larger than the entire quadrant itself. You can refer to it as +/- 45 degrees if you want to, it is irrelevant. Try going to a clinic or association meeting sometime and tell them that your goal for a force play at 1B is to obtain a 135 degree angle. Good luck with that. Last edited by IowaBlue; Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 02:17pm. |
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My position is very simple here in a place I am much more solid. As a matter of mathematics alone, you're statements are analytically wrong. Not synthetically wrong (which would give you room to argue) but analytically wrong. You can make a case that all four angles always yield the same benefits and I'd be interested to hear it. But when you simply try and contend they are mathematically equal, you are analytically wrong. ________ Asiansexslave Last edited by youngump; Mon Sep 19, 2011 at 07:43pm. |
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I have explained things the best that I can as I am not a math major. |
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I think we are seeing the relationships from a different perspective. I understand what you are saying about 45 degrees off of first base line. That creates an angle with the base. However there is also another angle created from where you are standing at 45 degrees. That is the 135 angle Youngump and I are refering to. Do you see that?
That is all I am interested in. That point and nothing else. |
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OK we strayed away from the OP.
Everyone does their called strike three differently. I never say the word “three”, but my verbal call on strike three is different than other called strikes. On strike three I give my verbal call before I move, then come up with a hammer strike signal, followed by a “punch out” aka “pulling the ripcord”. If the batter is not out because of U3K, I do exactly the same thing on strike three except I don’t make the punchout move until F2 tags the batter. If the defense makes the play at 1B instead I never make the punchout move as the out call belongs to my partner. The decision to make or not make that punchout move is part of a routine to make sure that I am applying the U3K rule. I would respectfully disagree with the argument that this is the same as making a different call on a missed base. A missed base in an appeal play; an uncaught third strike is not. Having said that I do believe the players need to know what is going on; I am not giving a big demonstrative signal on an U3K, simply not signaling an out when in fact the player is not yet out. |
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Normally, I give the same strike three call, whether it is U3K or not, but with the same few minor variations from one K to the next. But essentially it is "Sell Strike".
When the Sell is not necesssary or out of place, I will verbalize it as "Strike 3".
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