Live ball appeal

[txump81]

7.10(d) the runner fails to touch home base and makes no attempt to return to that base, and home base is tagged; NOTE: A runner forfeits his/her opportunity to return to home base when he/she enters the dugout or any other dead ball area on their way to the bench or dugout.

The way I read the OP, the runner should be safe as they were attempting to return and therefore must be tagged.

[DeputyUICHousto]

Originally Posted by txump81

7.10(d) the runner fails to touch home base and makes no attempt to return to that base, and home base is tagged; NOTE: A runner forfeits his/her opportunity to return to home base when he/she enters the dugout or any other dead ball area on their way to the bench or dugout.

The way I read the OP, the runner should be safe as they were attempting to return and therefore must be tagged.

And what if there are other runners on base? F2 is out chasing down a runner who missed a base. Why prevent the defense from getting other outs? I can't see how you wouldn't honor the appeal here.

[MigoP]

Steve, I believe if you read my post again you will see I cited NFHS Softball Rules. Unless something changed dramatically, this is High School softball Rule. In Fed. runner out on appeal,simple as that.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by MigoP

Steve, I believe if you read my post again you will see I cited NFHS Softball Rules. Unless something changed dramatically, this is High School softball Rule. In Fed. runner out on appeal,simple as that.

Yes, but you followed up with OBR which has no bearing on softball (except maybe LL and even there there are modifications).

We can appreciate your knowledge, but mixing not only rule sets, but games (and baseball and softball are NOT the same game) can easily confuse the issue and thread.

[MigoP]

Sorry you boys only do 1 league but most umpires do several. Distinguishing the differences helps clarify not confuse umps. Staying with 1 book limits you,by your choice. Others call lots of different leagues. Clarifacation will only help you understand differences.

[BretMan]

Do you consider baseball and softball different leagues?

Try "different sports"!

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by MigoP

Sorry you boys only do 1 league but most umpires do several. Distinguishing the differences helps clarify not confuse umps. Staying with 1 book limits you,by your choice. Others call lots of different leagues. Clarifacation will only help you understand differences.

Distinguishing differences between ASA/NFHS/NCAA, etc. may clarify things for softball umpires who work multiple softball rulesets. Applying OBR to softball plays does confuse things.

Or, you could try talking about softball rulings in the baseball forum and see how nice they treat you there...

[MigoP]

Seth, we do talk about all rule books in both sports because a lot of people do both sports. Our association and state gives us handouts telling the different rules between OBR NFHS NCAA ASA. This is for the majority of people who do more than 1 league.
They appreciate knowing the differences, seeing how they have to make different calls for different leagues.
The only one's I can see this confusing is umpires who only do softball.
The majority of umps work all year in multiple leagues and are not limited to softball. We prefer to be versed in any league we call.