Double first base question

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

For this particular play, the ball is "on target" (well, it the dirt, F3 just doesn't make the catch). I included this detail to eliminate all potential facets of the rule. Just your "run of the mill" play at first, B1 touches the white, followed by a dead ball.

Did the BR cross 1B a lifetime before the ball ever got there? Or was it decently close enough (within a second or two)?

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Did the BR cross 1B a lifetime before the ball ever got there? Or was it decently close enough (within a second or two)?

Now, Dave, don't make me go all "Irish" on you.

The play: A. There is a play at first base, B. Runner only touched white bag, C. Ball went out of play before B1 returned to first, D. B1 is now standing on 2B.

The question: Can the defense appeal that B1 "missed 1B" per DFB rules OR does the language in RS#1 prohibit a dead ball appeal on this play?

[MD Longhorn]

Seems to me you have an out. The language there does not exclude the OP at all. Runner never returned to first at all. This is clearly a missed base.