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Old Fri Oct 02, 2009, 08:59am
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Okay, let me rile a few people

Wrong call. The runner was NOT attempting to reach 3B.

There runner clearly taunted the catcher and, IMO, with full intent to interfere with the play blocked the ball with his leg/hip and, in doing so, initiated contact with the defender who was clearly attempting to stay out of the runner's path.

BTW, I would have pointed with my left. From the OF, I'll be this looked like an ejection or the umpire asking the PU for help.

And I don't care what game it is!
I dont know if that was sarcasm or not but in baseball runners are taught then when you are in a run down, TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE FIELDERS, bc it is INT. this happens probably about once a month in MLB, and obviously happens much much more often in lower levels of play.
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Old Fri Oct 02, 2009, 10:14am
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I dont know if that was sarcasm or not but in baseball runners are taught then when you are in a run down, TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE FIELDERS, bc it is INT. this happens probably about once a month in MLB, and obviously happens much much more often in lower levels of play.
You did intend to say "OBS", right?
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Old Fri Oct 02, 2009, 11:03am
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You did intend to say "OBS", right?
The rule may be OBS, but the coaches teach them it is INT.
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Old Fri Oct 02, 2009, 03:11pm
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You did intend to say "OBS", right?
I find it easier to remember that in baseball, OBS is a form of INT.
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Old Sat Oct 03, 2009, 08:48pm
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I find it easier to remember that in baseball, OBS is a form of INT.
What? Can you explain that?
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Old Sat Oct 03, 2009, 10:18pm
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What? Can you explain that?
No, tired of wasting my time on simple little-ball BS
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Old Sun Oct 04, 2009, 08:18am
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I don't see how OBR considers OBS to be a form of INT.

OBR does recognize "defensive interference" when a fielder (virtually always F2) prevents a batter from hitting a batted ball. Some codes call it OBS when the bat hits F2's mitt.

The definition of OBS does not use the terms interfere or interference, nor does the definition of INT mention OBS.
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Old Sun Oct 04, 2009, 10:41am
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I don't see how OBR considers OBS to be a form of INT.

OBR does recognize "defensive interference" when a fielder (virtually always F2) prevents a batter from hitting a batted ball. Some codes call it OBS when the bat hits F2's mitt.

The definition of OBS does not use the terms interfere or interference, nor does the definition of INT mention OBS.
Okay, fine, one more little ball post to satisfy those who read what they want instead of what is posted.

And I don't see where I stated that it was a fact of life, but a manner in which I remember it when having a baseball discussion. However, to the point where it can be confusing:

From MLB rules:

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INTERFERENCE
(a) Offensive interference is an act by the team at bat which interferes with,
obstructs, impedes, hinders or confuses any fielder attempting to make a play.
If the umpire declares the batter, batter-runner, or a runner out for interference,
all other runners shall return to the last base that was in the judgment of the
umpire, legally touched at the time of the interference, unless otherwise
provided by these rules.

(b) Defensive interference is an act by a fielder which hinders or prevents a batter
from hitting a pitch. (No such animal in softball, we call it obstruction.)

7.07 If, with a runner on third base and trying to score by means of a squeeze play or a steal, the catcher or any other fielder steps on, or in front of home base without possession of the ball, or touches the batter or his bat, the pitcher shall be charged with a balk, the batter shall be awarded first base on the interference and the ball is dead. (Again, what we call obstruction)

And, in MLB, when there is a play being made on an obstructed runner, it is the same signal (dead ball) as we have in INT. In softball, it is a DDB until that runner is put out, play is complete or the runner has passed their area of protection.

I deal with a lot of baseball umpires and when THEY mention INT of the defense, I know how to interpret that as meaning OBS by thinking of OBS as a form of INT in their world.
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