Mechanics question

[wadeintothem]

Youngump, what you have to do is: work on it.

Work on your 3B positioning. Every game be working on something and add that to the list of things you need to be aware of so you can work on it. Even if there isnt a play there, move because its your call if there is. That will make it habit.

Recognize now that it is your call, so now you need to get it down.

[DaveASA/FED]

Even 3 person potentially won't help on this play. ball hit in air to left field toward line R1 on 2nd. U3 goes out with hit, LF drops ball and R1 takes off for 3rd U1 has BR, PU has R1 going into 3rd, U3 is out till play is over. So even 3 person has the PU taking that play at 3rd base coming from the outfield on lead runner.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Youngump, what you have to do is: work on it.

Work on your 3B positioning. Every game be working on something and add that to the list of things you need to be aware of so you can work on it. Even if there isnt a play there, move because its your call if there is. That will make it habit.

Recognize now that it is your call, so now you need to get it down.

I do move down toward third base here, and I guess conceptually I've understood it's my call. I'm still just not sure where you'd go on this play if you want to actually see anything on it. I can't work on getting somewhere unless someone will own up and tell me where that is.
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[wadeintothem]

You need to be just in foul territory at a 90 degree 10-12 feet from the base for that play

[youngump]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

You need to be just in foul territory at a 90 degree 10-12 feet from the base for that play

Are you seriously maintaining that you're fast enough to get to that position on the play I described with a good age group playing? In the time it takes a fast runner to cover 40-ish feet --starting moving -- you can go from set to a position 65 feet away? What should a slower guy like me do? If the runners going 40 feet, you have about 35 feet to work with for me.
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[wadeintothem]

While I am faster than the average umpire, it depends on the situation. Lets say that on a particular play you were not fast enough or even possible for anyone to be in the ideal position; that doesnt change the ideal position.

You asked where SHOULD you be.

A 90 10-12 is ideal "by the book", sometimes I close from there on a tag play as it develops depending on what is happening.

[SRW]

Remember...

Angle over distance.

You already have the angle. Close the distance the best you can.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by SRW

Remember...

Angle over distance.

You already have the angle. Close the distance the best you can.

I don't have the angle Wade suggested, but I'm thinking more angle is the best thing I can get here. On this play, I'd want to work inside toward the circle to try and get at least 120 to the throw.

What angle would you suggest for this play?
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[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by SRW

Remember...

Angle over distance.

You already have the angle. Close the distance the best you can.

Way too much emphasis placed on speed in this game, at least, for umpires.

Get to where you need to be at the best angle you can get. I've worked 6-man games that still didn't cover every possible angle imaginable, so don't worry about it and just do the best you can.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by SRW

Remember...

Angle over distance.

You already have the angle. Close the distance the best you can.

Thread over!

No need to get up in arms over being too far away on a fast-developing play. You'd be surprised how well you can see with just a good angle.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Lets say that on a particular play you were not fast enough or even possible for anyone to be in the ideal position; that doesnt change the ideal position.

Sure it does. If I run toward the position you are suggesting and make it about 45 feet, I will be straightlined to the throw. Unless someone explains to me something better I want angle on this throw so I'm going inside.
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[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by youngump

Sure it does. If I run toward the position you are suggesting and make it about 45 feet, I will be straightlined to the throw. Unless someone explains to me something better I want angle on this throw so I'm going inside.

If you go inside that far, you will get dinged on an eval. When they want you to think, they'll post it for you in the umpire manual.