Arizona/Stanford game last night.

Anyone watch the game see the play in I think the bottom of the 4th. Stanford had runners on 1st and 2nd and I think there was 0 outs. Ground ball hit to F3 batter-runner instead of running into tag stops then takes 2 small steps backward and is then tagged out. Batter is out and runners that advanced to 2nd and 3rd returned to original bases.

Is this an NCAA rule or is it an ASA rule? I had never heard of this before.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Jerry Blum

Anyone watch the game see the play in I think the bottom of the 4th. Stanford had runners on 1st and 2nd and I think there was 0 outs. Ground ball hit to F3 batter-runner instead of running into tag stops then takes 2 small steps backward and is then tagged out. Batter is out and runners that advanced to 2nd and 3rd returned to original bases.

Is this an NCAA rule or is it an ASA rule? I had never heard of this before.

Didn't see it. I was calling games last night, but got to watch the game starting in the bottom of the 5th. Saw Stanford spank Arizona in the 5th with 6 runs.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Jerry Blum

Anyone watch the game see the play in I think the bottom of the 4th. Stanford had runners on 1st and 2nd and I think there was 0 outs. Ground ball hit to F3 batter-runner instead of running into tag stops then takes 2 small steps backward and is then tagged out. Batter is out and runners that advanced to 2nd and 3rd returned to original bases.

Is this an NCAA rule or is it an ASA rule? I had never heard of this before.

Well, it is certainly an ASA rule.

Originally Posted by Rule 8-2 The Batter-Runner is Out

H. When the batter-runner steps back toward home plate to avoid or delay a tag by a fielder.
EFFECT - Section 2D-H: The ball is dead and runner(s) must return to the last base legally touched at the time of the interference.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Well, it is certainly an ASA rule.

I think it is an everybody rule!

[SC Ump]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I think it is an everybody rule!

Not that it matters on this board, but I think it's an everybody SB rule, however, I seem to remember it is not the same in BB.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by SC Ump

Not that it matters on this board, but I think it's an everybody SB rule, however, I seem to remember it is not the same in BB.

And on a softball board I have absolutely no concern about a game that isn't being discussed.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by Jerry Blum

Anyone watch the game see the play in I think the bottom of the 4th. Stanford had runners on 1st and 2nd and I think there was 0 outs. Ground ball hit to F3 batter-runner instead of running into tag stops then takes 2 small steps backward and is then tagged out. Batter is out and runners that advanced to 2nd and 3rd returned to original bases.

Is this an NCAA rule or is it an ASA rule? I had never heard of this before.

That was my friend Kevin Davis and he nailed it!

12.4 Batter-Runner Is Out
The batter-runner is out:
12.4.11 When she steps back toward home plate to avoid or delay a tag by a
fielder.
EFFECT—The ball is dead. Each runner must return to the last base
legally touched at the time of the pitch.

[NCASAUmp]

So how many of us have ever called this rule? I've yet to do so.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

So how many of us have ever called this rule? I've yet to do so.

Once, a long time ago in a Men's SP league and was he loaded! Didn't even know I had called him out.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

So how many of us have ever called this rule? I've yet to do so.

A couple of times at lower levels. I'm really suprised that it happended at such a high level. Thats a rec league move.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Thats a rec league move.

The talking heads thought she didn't know the rule. I was of the belief that she just reacted without thinking.

Didn't hurt the team in the end, but it wasn't the best time to pull a Chris Webber.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

The talking heads thought she didn't know the rule. I was of the belief that she just reacted without thinking.

Didn't hurt the team in the end, but it wasn't the best time to pull a Chris Webber.

I have no idea what pulling a Chris Webber is...

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

So how many of us have ever called this rule? I've yet to do so.

I have, more than a few times. But, as wade noted, rarely at the higher levels!

[vcblue]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I have, more than a few times. But, as wade noted, rarely at the higher levels!

It is what to UCLA out of the WS 5 or 6 years ago

[argodad]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

So how many of us have ever called this rule? I've yet to do so.

Yes, in an ASA 16U qualifier. And I let R1 from 2B stay on 3rd, as she reached it before the step back. I sent R2 back to 1st (she was slow). OC questioned, but was fairly easily convinced.

BTW, the rule IS different in NCAA. College runners return to the bases occupied at TOP.