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Jerry Blum Fri May 22, 2009 08:35am
Arizona/Stanford game last night.
 
Anyone watch the game see the play in I think the bottom of the 4th. Stanford had runners on 1st and 2nd and I think there was 0 outs. Ground ball hit to F3 batter-runner instead of running into tag stops then takes 2 small steps backward and is then tagged out. Batter is out and runners that advanced to 2nd and 3rd returned to original bases.

Is this an NCAA rule or is it an ASA rule? I had never heard of this before.

NCASAUmp Fri May 22, 2009 08:40am
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Originally Posted by Jerry Blum (Post 603982)
Anyone watch the game see the play in I think the bottom of the 4th. Stanford had runners on 1st and 2nd and I think there was 0 outs. Ground ball hit to F3 batter-runner instead of running into tag stops then takes 2 small steps backward and is then tagged out. Batter is out and runners that advanced to 2nd and 3rd returned to original bases.

Is this an NCAA rule or is it an ASA rule? I had never heard of this before.
Didn't see it. I was calling games last night, but got to watch the game starting in the bottom of the 5th. Saw Stanford spank Arizona in the 5th with 6 runs. :cool:

Dakota Fri May 22, 2009 08:49am
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Originally Posted by Jerry Blum (Post 603982)
Anyone watch the game see the play in I think the bottom of the 4th. Stanford had runners on 1st and 2nd and I think there was 0 outs. Ground ball hit to F3 batter-runner instead of running into tag stops then takes 2 small steps backward and is then tagged out. Batter is out and runners that advanced to 2nd and 3rd returned to original bases.

Is this an NCAA rule or is it an ASA rule? I had never heard of this before.
Well, it is certainly an ASA rule.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rule 8-2 The Batter-Runner is Out
H. When the batter-runner steps back toward home plate to avoid or delay a tag by a fielder.
EFFECT - Section 2D-H: The ball is dead and runner(s) must return to the last base legally touched at the time of the interference.

Skahtboi Fri May 22, 2009 08:52am
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 603986)
Well, it is certainly an ASA rule.

I think it is an everybody rule!

MNBlue Fri May 22, 2009 09:04am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Blum (Post 603982)
Anyone watch the game see the play in I think the bottom of the 4th. Stanford had runners on 1st and 2nd and I think there was 0 outs. Ground ball hit to F3 batter-runner instead of running into tag stops then takes 2 small steps backward and is then tagged out. Batter is out and runners that advanced to 2nd and 3rd returned to original bases.

Is this an NCAA rule or is it an ASA rule? I had never heard of this before.
That was my friend Kevin Davis and he nailed it!

12.4 Batter-Runner Is Out
The batter-runner is out:
12.4.11 When she steps back toward home plate to avoid or delay a tag by a
fielder.
EFFECT—The ball is dead. Each runner must return to the last base
legally touched at the time of the pitch.

NCASAUmp Fri May 22, 2009 09:11am
So how many of us have ever called this rule? I've yet to do so.

MNBlue Fri May 22, 2009 09:13am
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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 603995)
So how many of us have ever called this rule? I've yet to do so.
Once, a long time ago in a Men's SP league and was he loaded! Didn't even know I had called him out.

wadeintothem Fri May 22, 2009 09:38am
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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 603995)
So how many of us have ever called this rule? I've yet to do so.
A couple of times at lower levels. I'm really suprised that it happended at such a high level. Thats a rec league move.

MNBlue Fri May 22, 2009 09:59am
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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 604001)
Thats a rec league move.
The talking heads thought she didn't know the rule. I was of the belief that she just reacted without thinking.

Didn't hurt the team in the end, but it wasn't the best time to pull a Chris Webber.

Skahtboi Fri May 22, 2009 09:59am
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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 603995)
So how many of us have ever called this rule? I've yet to do so.
I have, more than a few times. But, as wade noted, rarely at the higher levels!

wadeintothem Fri May 22, 2009 10:00am
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Originally Posted by MNBlue (Post 604008)
The talking heads thought she didn't know the rule. I was of the belief that she just reacted without thinking.

Didn't hurt the team in the end, but it wasn't the best time to pull a Chris Webber.

I have no idea what pulling a Chris Webber is... :cool:

vcblue Fri May 22, 2009 10:24am
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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 604009)
I have, more than a few times. But, as wade noted, rarely at the higher levels!
It is what to UCLA out of the WS 5 or 6 years ago

Dakota Fri May 22, 2009 10:25am
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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 604010)
I have no idea what pulling a Chris Webber is... :cool:
ask.com / wiki challenged?

Quote:
On April 5, 1993, at Michigan's second consecutive NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship game, Webber infamously called a time-out with 11 seconds left in the game when his team, down 73-71, did not have any remaining, resulting in a technical foul that effectively clinched the game for North Carolina.

wadeintothem Fri May 22, 2009 10:30am
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 604018)
ask.com / wiki challenged?
"Pulling a chris webber" did not bring that up on google :cool:

ncaaumpdj Fri May 22, 2009 11:28am
Kevin Davis is an amazing official!! And yes he did nail it!!
Runners return to the last base touched at the time of the pitch. So correct ruling was applied. Mark how did your regional go? And how is Ken doing?
DJ


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