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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 01:43pm
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Question, probobly easy, but I am a new ASA umpire.

First Basemen fields ball in fair territory. Fair ball, however the momentum takes him into foul territory. First basemen runs and tags the orange base only before the runner gets to the base. What is the call?
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 01:52pm
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out. 8-2m-4, 8-2m-5 (hrmm, ASA rule numbering has me cornfused.)
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 02:01pm
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My call? Get rid of the safety base. It causes more problems than it solves. JMO.
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 02:07pm
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better yet.. lets make it a 8' first base ultra-safe mega circle. with some 24" lanes in it.
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 02:27pm
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better yet.. lets make it a 8' first base ultra-safe mega circle. with some 24" lanes in it.
Hmmmm...sounds familiar...
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Hmmmm...sounds familiar...
Maybe so, but still a true and accurate point.
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 08:32pm
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better yet.. lets make it a 8' first base ultra-safe mega circle. with some 24" lanes in it.
As in NCAA softball, those lanes wouldn't last a half inning.
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My call? Get rid of the safety base. It causes more problems than it solves. JMO.


The adult kickball league I play in uses modified ASA rules. I was surprised to see that for our second game, the field had the safety base since our first game did not use one.

I've only ever been involved in a game with the safety base once in my life and the umpire didn't explain the rule differences well or at all. So I was trying to recall the rules I knew from the NFHS rule book and from discussions here.

Because I didn't know that the BR only has to touch the orange base when there is a play at first base, I kept appealing that the runner improperly touched the white base on all of their extra base hits in the first inning.

It wasn't until I had a chance to read the ASA rule book that I saw there was more to the rule than what I thought (too many exceptions, IMO ).
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 02:26pm
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Question, probobly easy, but I am a new ASA umpire.

First Basemen fields ball in fair territory. Fair ball, however the momentum takes him into foul territory. First basemen runs and tags the orange base only before the runner gets to the base. What is the call?
More data. Did F3 touch the safety base as the momentum was pulling him/her into foul territory, but did s/he move into foul territory and then come back to the base?

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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 03:04pm
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More data. Did F3 touch the safety base as the momentum was pulling him/her into foul territory, but did s/he move into foul territory and then come back to the base?

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... he had to run (from foul territory) and tag the orange (colored) part.

OP looks pretty complete.
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 03:41pm
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... he had to run (from foul territory) and tag the orange (colored) part.

OP looks pretty complete.
No, that isn't what the OP states, Sam....er, ...CNB.
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 03:26pm
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More data. Did F3 touch the safety base as the momentum was pulling him/her into foul territory, but did s/he move into foul territory and then come back to the base?
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He had to run from foul territory and hit only the orange base. Does this change anything?
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 03:39pm
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He had to run from foul territory and hit only the orange base. Does this change anything?
Yes. When the defense is coming from foul territory to make the play, they are allowed to use the orange bag. OUT.
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 03:43pm
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He had to run from foul territory and hit only the orange base. Does this change anything?
Just validates the out call. As Tom notes, as long as the defender is coming from the foul side of the 1B line, either portion of the base my be used.
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 03:50pm
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He had to run from foul territory and hit only the orange base. Does this change anything?
Yes. It's time to get a new batter because the old one is out.

(sorry, couldn't resist...going back to cave..)
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