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Another INT/OBS Question
R1 on 2B. Batter squares to bunt. Infield charges in. Batter swings and hits a looping fly ball to short left center field. F6 (after initially charging in on the fake bunt) starts back peddling (did not turn around to run) trying to make a play on the ball. F6 while back peddling and R1 running from 2B to 3B make contact. Ball falls into outfield grass about 3 feet. R1 advances safely to 3B, BR makes it safely to 1B. In my judgment F6 could not have caught the ball with ordinary effort.
Question: When you have contact between a runner and a fielder is a call of OBS or INT required?
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This is pretty clearly OBS - I'd think you need to throw the arm out on this one to let em know you are watching then go about your business. This is not the ASA definition of a wreck so you have a call here.
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With all due respect, I would have to disagree with Wade. I think the "trying to make a play on the ball" makes it INT. Runner interfered with a fielder trying to make a play on a batted ball. |
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How I read the scenario was there was no play to be made. This seemed more to me to be a hopeless back peddle. In either case though - a call is needed on this one IMO. Either INT or OBS. I would lean towards OBS on a hopeless back peddle into a runner. Definitely INT if there is a play to be attempted.
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I'm there; it must be one or the other.
Your decision; attempting to make a play isn't a criteria. If you truly believe F6 could have a play to make the catch (ordinary effort only applies in the IFF rule), it is interference. If you judge (YOUR OPINION is all that matters!!) it was a futile attempt, it is obstruction. Absolutely no version of softabll I know about has this as a wreck, or "no call".
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Usually, but I don't think there is a definitive yes.
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Its not nit picking, its in the rule book
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"Contact between defensive and offensive players does not necessarily mean that Obstruction or Interference occurred." Having said that, this play does not, IMHO, fall into this category. It has to be one or the other. And as Steve said, its your judgment. The way I read it, I'd think I'd have OBS based on the fact that the defender didn't have a play on the ball.
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Not having my book with me (and not sure when I'll be home) and for the edification of those who do not have a book, could you give an example where int/obs might not be called? Thanks |
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Collision at home
The play I think of is the bunt in front of home plate and there is a collision between the catcher and batter-runner. In this case if neither does anything out of the ordinary, then you have a collision. This exact play is listed on the same page as the quote I gave in the 2008 Rule Book. It is not there in the 2009. Not sure why it was removed.
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Now, I do agree it sounds like OBS. I also think it is important that we not focus on ordinary effort when we protect a fielder.
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Thanks everyone. It was my first game of the year and I made no call. Later I thought that was an error on my part. Per your input there should have been a call, my error. Thanks for your help!
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If theres a call, and you dont call it, and everyone is happy.. was there really a call?
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