Association in need of help.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Dholloway1962

If you allow the flip/toss she can stand on plate and "play catch with herself" any number of times.

What rule makes this illegal?

[topper]

Originally Posted by Dakota

What rule makes this illegal?

Here's one:

NCAA rule 10.2.1.4 - The ball must be held and remain in one hand, either bare or gloved.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by topper

Here's one:

NCAA rule 10.2.1.4 - The ball must be held and remain in one hand, either bare or gloved.

Can't say for sure, but I seriously doubt the association in the OP does NCAA... At least, not any NCAA that anyone else might recognize...

[whiskers_ump]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Can't say for sure, but I seriously doubt the association in the OP does NCAA... At least, not any NCAA that anyone else might recognize...

He does, Teams like LSU, ULL, many others.

[Dakota]

I didn't mean the OP personally, but if this association is assigning umpires to DIV 1 softball (LSU, etc., are no pushovers...), then I guess I'm surprised at some of the rule "interpretations." But, then, I don't do NCAA, so what do I know?

[topper]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Can't say for sure, but I seriously doubt the association in the OP does NCAA... At least, not any NCAA that anyone else might recognize...

I agree.

Then again, we are talking about Louisiana. Right, Whiskers?

[whiskers_ump]

Originally Posted by topper

I agree.

Then again, we are talking about Louisiana. Right, Whiskers?

You are correct as always.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by topper

Here's one:

NCAA rule 10.2.1.4 - The ball must be held and remain in one hand, either bare or gloved.

thanks for the reference... will be using it tuesday.

Btw... got to see a little of the LSU vs. texas A&M game.

[CajunNewBlue]

now its two calls later and im asked via phone... does the batter have to keep one foot in the batters box while taking signs? .... NO... thats baseball.
And can they wear sweatbands on their forearms or on their legs? .... ok, common sense tells me that wearing a sweatband on your leg ISNT the manufacture's intended way of using that equipment.... might be fun to watch em try and wipe their foreheads tho... given the right age group.
But on the forearm and she's not pitching (or if she is pitching and its not distracting).. the rules seem to have no issues with that
On a personal note: i was mentored by much wiser umpires to find anything on a pitchers throwing arm distracting and it heads off problems later on, so that's what i use.

Since when did i become the rules freaking guru for our association?... i think they are just trying to catch me giving them a wrong answer. like i overheard last night... "little dude cant be right about that... its only gonna be his third year". grrrrr.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

now its two calls later and im asked via phone... does the batter have to keep one foot in the batters box while taking signs? .... NO... thats baseball.

or ASA softball

And can they wear sweatbands on their forearms or on their legs? .... ok, common sense tells me that wearing a sweatband on your leg ISNT the manufacture's intended way of using that equipment....

But they are trying to keep their metal spikes from rusting

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

... i think they are just trying to catch me giving them a wrong answer. like i overheard last night... "little dude cant be right about that... its only gonna be his third year". grrrrr.

do they have close relatives in the PNW? extras from Dueling Banjos????and were those close relatives at a meeting for new umpires in Renton, WA on Monday night, even though they are veterans???? I think SRW and I may have met them.

ASA training class moderator: "Yes, the book doesn't say there is a certain amount of time someone has to have control of the ball for it to be a catch. However, if the guy makes a catch, runs 100 yards, chats up some good looking mom in the stands, and then drops the ball, I hope you still have a catch. You just have to be use a little common sense when others around you have NO common sense."

Dueling Banjos extras: "Now come on, the rule book says the release has to be voluntary. Are you trying to tell these folks the release doesn't have to be voluntary?"

Siiigh. Among things I hate, the ones I hate most are ones trying to get gotchas. If I uck fup, tell me. Otherwise, STFU.

[CajunNewBlue]

Just venting a little.... sigh... and the "association" I am referring to only does High School and rec. ball. and some of the guys on here that I have worked with can attest to how "rough" I was (and still am at times) coming outta there after 2 years. but thats another story!

[CajunNewBlue]

and to clarify for whiskers and topper.... i dont work the same assoc. as gene & wayne.. well i mean i do, but just as a "floater" (no, not the kind in yer toilet bowl.. ) but my home assoc. is farther east than lake charles.

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by Dakota

What rule makes this illegal?

Don't have an ASA book yet so I have to paraphrase, but once the pitcher is on the plate and the hands seperate, the ball may not touch the glove again.

Once the hands seperate, the pitch begins and you may not touch the glove/ball together after pitch begins.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by Dholloway1962

Don't have an ASA book yet so I have to paraphrase, but once the pitcher is on the plate and the hands seperate, the ball may not touch the glove again.

Once the hands seperate, the pitch begins and you may not touch the glove/ball together after pitch begins.

The part I'm missing -- and I suspect the others as well -- is that the hands only separate once. They are apart. The pitcher steps on the plate. She makes the toss. They've still never been together. Then they come together for the first time. She separates and then throws home. That's all legal.
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