Canada v. USA

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I was wondering, if they are playing by ISF rules, why are the umpires wearing ASA stuff? (Not completely official, since the shirts are pink due to breast cancer awareness.)

A number of reasons from it is an ASA-sponsored event to ISF is very tight with their uniforms. A hat is one thing, but they are not going to give an umpire a shirt for a single-game event.

[Al]

Originally Posted by socalumps

She was there...we wern't!!!!

Easy for you to be critical!!

Hi socalump,

I thought the umpire at 3rd base handled an unusual situation very well. The sit I'm referring to was where a player advanced to 3rd base while another runner, who was in a rundown between 3rd and home, ended up coming back to 3rd. For a moment both were standing on 3rd. A tag came just after the runner got back to 3rd and the other runner, who didn't belong there, started running back to 2nd. I wish I recorded it because I thought I heard one of the commentators say something to this affect: "The tag didn't get the out because the other runner got off the base before the tag came, if they were both on the base she would have been out on the tag". If that is what she was saying she was wrong because the only one subject to being tagged out would be the player that was not rightfully on the base. ...Al

[Dutch Alex]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

A number of reasons from it is an ASA-sponsored event to ISF is very tight with their uniforms. A hat is one thing, but they are not going to give an umpire a shirt for a single-game event.

Most ISF-licened umpires do have 1 or 2 shirts from ISF. I still don't think the game wasn't organized by the ISF. They've played by it's rules. Which is logic, because in China they will also.

Just got back from my practice game Dutch Olympic team vs a dutch AllStar team. We also played by the ISF-rules, but the Dutch federation was the organizer. We've used out dutch uniform. (I'm not even ISF-licened, just got ESF-licened last year...)

[Dutch Alex]

Originally Posted by Al

Hi socalump,

I thought the umpire at 3rd base handled an unusual situation very well. The sit I'm referring to was where a player advanced to 3rd base while another runner, who was in a rundown between 3rd and home, ended up coming back to 3rd. For a moment both were standing on 3rd. A tag came just after the runner got back to 3rd and the other runner, who didn't belong there, started running back to 2nd. I wish I recorded it because I thought I heard one of the commentators say something to this affect: "The tag didn't get the out because the other runner got off the base before the tag came, if they were both on the base she would have been out on the tag". If that is what she was saying she was wrong because the only one subject to being tagged out would be the player that was not rightfully on the base. ...Al

ISF-rules 2006-2009

rule 8 sec. 4 d
Two runners may not occupy the same base simultaneously.
EFFECT 8.4d
The runner who first legally occupied the base shall be entitled to it, unless forced to advance. The other runner amy be put out, by being touched with the ball.

The runner who was chased back to 3rd base had legally touched the before the runner from 2nd, and couldn't therefor be tagged out. You're absolutly right!

[SRW]

Originally Posted by NDblue

BTW, who was the PU?

Well, that's Traci. She's going to the Olympics.
And the 3BU... that's Lori. She is also going to the Olympics.

[NDblue]

Just because she's going to the Olympics doesn't mean that I have to like her positioning. I felt she was way to far inside on those left-handed batters with a lousy view of the outside corner of the plate. I personally couldn't see how she could see it from her angle.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by NDblue

Just because she's going to the Olympics doesn't mean that I have to like her positioning. I felt she was way to far inside on those left-handed batters with a lousy view of the outside corner of the plate. I personally couldn't see how she could see it from her angle.

That's probably why you're in ND and she isn't.

[NDblue]

Originally Posted by SRW

That's probably why you're in ND and she isn't.

Do I need to start talking sh!t about Washington? I guarantee I'll come up with more about WA than you will about ND.

[socalumps]

Originally Posted by NDblue

Do I need to start talking sh!t about Washington? I guarantee I'll come up with more about WA than you will about ND.

But maybe if you are talking about specific umpires...your opinion, while yours, is insignificant?

[SRW]

Originally Posted by NDblue

Do I need to start talking sh!t about Washington? I guarantee I'll come up with more about WA than you will about ND.

This wasn't about me. Or WA. Or IL. Or ND. You asked about Traci. I was merely pointing out the fact that she's the one on TV that you're watching, not the other way around. There's probably a reason why she's there, and you're not.

Think about it.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NDblue

Just because she's going to the Olympics doesn't mean that I have to like her positioning. I felt she was way to far inside on those left-handed batters with a lousy view of the outside corner of the plate. I personally couldn't see how she could see it from her angle.

Which catcher? If you are talking about Nuevy, you would be a bit inside too, because you are not going to go up when she sets up inside.

[NDblue]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Which catcher? If you are talking about Nuevy, you would be a bit inside too, because you are not going to go up when she sets up inside.

Didn't matter which catcher and even if the catcher were setting up for one down the pipe or to the outside, the PU was set up waaaaaaaaaaaaay inside on every left-handed batter.

Apparently we're not allowed to voice our opinions about Olympic bound umpires on this site without getting slammed.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by NDblue

Didn't matter which catcher and even if the catcher were setting up for one down the pipe or to the outside, the PU was set up waaaaaaaaaaaaay inside on every left-handed batter.

Apparently we're not allowed to voice our opinions about Olympic bound umpires on this site without getting slammed.

Tow the line or get slammed.

So what....?

I think ASA has robotics, not mechanics, absurd uniform policies, and goofy thoughts on positioning which are rigid and cause poor positioning on many plays.

I've been slammed a 500 times by the company men for saying so.

no biggie.

When I'm on the field though, ASA writes the check and I perform my robotics nearly perfectly, study hard, and do what I'm told. They are the boss.

When I'm here, I'll say what I want. When the company men slam it, I dont pout.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Tow the line or get slammed.

So what....?

I think ASA has robotics, not mechanics, absurd uniform policies, and goofy thoughts on positioning which are rigid and cause poor positioning on many plays.

I think you are full of $hit, myself. I'm still looking for the robots and I have yet to end up out of position due to an ASA mechanic.

[wadeintothem]

See ND Blue?

Now I could pout about not being allowed to express my opinion about ASA Robotics..

But for what?

Its all for discussion and learning purposes.

Its thrashing the wheat from the chaff.