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Old Tue Apr 29, 2008, 07:43pm
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Originally Posted by Dholloway1962
that is hiliarous, I might need to use that one with your permission of course
No, you dont need his permission.. thats Umpire comebacks 101. Youre good to go to use it
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Old Tue Apr 29, 2008, 10:13pm
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No, you dont need his permission.. thats Umpire comebacks 101. Youre good to go to use it
Hey! You're taking food out of my family's mouths.

If you don't mind taking a little shot for the sake of a good laugh, another one goes:

When do the real umpires show up?
Oh, they're right over there waiting for the real players to come.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 09:23am
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In my view, the proper way to handle these things depend on both the level of play (not JUST age of the players), the level of the game, and the rule being violated.

The most leeway is given to younger rec league games early in the season on technical illegalities (how to step onto the plate, double touching, etc.)

The least leeway (i.e. none) is given to travel teams in championship play (regardless of age).

For little kids (10, 12 U) playing early season league games in a rec league, I'm talking to the coach between innings about technical pitching violations where there is no "damage" being done to the opponent (other than them not getting the benefit of the IP penalty). Usually, I will even instruct the coach to NOT say anything to his pitcher now, but deal with it during practice.

As the season progresses for these kinds of teams, I begin to expect some of these issues to have been addressed already, and will then warn and expect to call it the next time I see it. For rec-level tournaments, we are many times instructed to warn before calling any IP by the tournament UIC.

If you try to wrap this into one all-inclusive answer, you will find your self either OOO for young rec league games or too lax for travel games.
I agree with you. You need to follow common sense. A NCAA or HS varsity and even most JV games need strict rule enforcement. On the other hand JH or younger I would lose what little hair I have left and more importantly actual game time play if I enforced all ASA rules by the book. I'll give you an example. Worked with a rookie last year doing 12 and under both teams were "average". Bases loaded girl started her delivery and stopped because some one shouted out of thestands. My partner was plate ump and he called an illegal pitch and you know all (blank) happened. The rest of the game was pure misery with over 12 illegal pitches and 2 ejections.I for one will try to manage a game with both rules and a little common sense when common sense is called for.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 11:36am
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That's all well and fine, but sort of comes apart when "they" inform you that "blue, you are missing a pretty good game" and the obvious response is, "I know, but I was assigned this one!"
I have actually used that one!
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