Foul tip?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Steve M

Mike,
Didn't the original post state that the ball was lodged, and that the catcher reached in & got it? Maybe nit-picking, but if it's lodged I would think it should be dead.

Yes, it did say it was lodged, in a defender's legal and properly worn gear. The defense allowed the ball on which they were making a play become lodged, not the offense. If a runner is stealing, are you going to put them back on 1B and penalize the offense for a defensive faux pas? The is the defense's problem, no one elses. There is no ASA rule supporting ruling this ball dead, at least none that I can find.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

No, because it isn't a blocked ball (as BretMan noted).

The ball became stuck in official equipment properly worn by the DEFENSE over which the DEFENSE has total control. Now, if the ball became entered and became lodge, stuck or took on any status to which the defense did not have immediate and unrestricted access to the ball, then it is a Dead Ball.

Check out 8.5.M

I stand corrected. Gotta read far enough.

[ukumpire]

ISF: Rule 1 ~ Definitions ~ 39 ~ Foul Tip
Sec. 39 FOUL TIP.

A foul tip is a batted ball which
a. Goes directly from the bat to the catcher's hands.
b. Goes not higher than the batter's head, and c. Is legally caught by the catcher.
NOTE: It is not a foul tip unless caught; and any foul tip that is caught is a strike. In Fast Pitch the ball is in play. It is not a catch if it is a rebound, unless the ball first touched the catcher's hand(s) or glove.

Okay so the play is Not a Foul Tip and cannot be a valid Catch after touching the Protector.

But it Remains Live (Although I have no Rule to back this up with!!