My ejection

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by Dutch Alex

My point was that solidairity among umpires is the greatest thing in a tournament (in life itself). And I know that money can destroy that solidarity. I'm not saying that I can/will look into someone wallet, solidairity can cost me and others money. That my point. To be solidair with each other, it might cost. If that makes me dreamer, so be it...

"Dreams are the far end of reality, they set our goals, they are the necessity ingredients of progress." ~fitump56 circa ten seconds ago

[BHBlue]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

Runner from second is a dead duck at HP and runs halfway to hell to avoid the tag. I kill it, declare him out. Of course, it's the worst call in the history of softball. (Don't you wish these folks would come up with something original?)

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by BHBlue

I kill it = I declare the ball dead.

Funeral services to be announced. Memorials may be sent to my address.

[AtlUmpSteve]

John, if I had to guess (it wasn't clear to me either), BHBlue was questioning why you would kill the play for an "out of the basepath" call.

I did, however, go back to your OP, and you noted 2 outs. Even though the mechanics make the OOBP call a live call, with 2 outs and them chasing around, I think it is good game management to kill it and make the announcement with them paying attention, and minimize the chances of injury or USC during the chase. After all, your call ends the inning, so what harm in killing it?

[charliej47]

Originally Posted by JEL

Do you have regrets?

There are times when I think about it and it still bothers me. There is new management at the field and they have asked me to umpire there again and I am thinking about going back as a lot of the umpires have left our group. We are going to have a group meeting to talk about the park and discuss umpiring there again. I will probably go back.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

I kill it = I declare the ball dead.

Funeral services to be announced. Memorials may be sent to my address.

Where do we send the memorial checks? Your place?

As for charliej47's post, we have a director at one municipality's rec sports dept. who does not back us up as umpires. As a result, the simple way to handle it, for me, is to simply not call there until the problem is removed. If I toss someone, it's for a darn good reason, and I expect... no, demand... that there be some weight behind it. When our professional, impartial and appropriate decisions are second guessed without our feedback, what's the point of even being there?

[BHBlue]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

John, if I had to guess (it wasn't clear to me either), BHBlue was questioning why you would kill the play for an "out of the basepath" call.

I did, however, go back to your OP, and you noted 2 outs. Even though the mechanics make the OOBP call a live call, with 2 outs and them chasing around, I think it is good game management to kill it and make the announcement with them paying attention, and minimize the chances of injury or USC during the chase. After all, your call ends the inning, so what harm in killing it?

Sorry for not being more clear. I was wondering about killing the play. I probably should have left it alone since the topic was not the call, but the out-of-line TD. A situation I think bkbjones handled well BTW.

I see your logic behind killing the play and agree with it in principal, and in this case "all's well that ends well". However, had he not had the number of outs correct, which I think happens to us all, killing the play would have denied the defense from recording another out or the offense from advancing. An umpire may be better served sticking with the rule as it's written in this case.