The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #46 (permalink)  
Old Sun Aug 05, 2007, 10:33pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Northeastern NC
Posts: 487
Quote:
Originally Posted by NCASAUmp
Nope, near Raleigh.
We don't have ASA in the triad but I am always hopeful. I would like to have the constant evaluation and critique as well as the firm standard that ASA ball offers. The closest ASA to the triad is Burlington. A little far but I have gone much farther to do Fed games. GSO used to be ASA but switched to NSA a few years back. I really don't know why.
__________________
TCBLUE13
NFHS, PONY, Babe Ruth, LL, NSA

Softball in the Bible
"In the big-inning"

Reply With Quote
  #47 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 01:26am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 1,640


"Don't you make me call Killer!"

Last edited by BretMan; Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 01:30am.
Reply With Quote
  #48 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 01:43am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Back in TX, formerly Seattle area
Posts: 1,279
Quote:
Originally Posted by BretMan
In the "credit where credit is due" department, that wasn't one of Flip's routines (the real Flip, not the umpire).

You're thinking of Pigmeat Markham and the catchphrase made famous on "Laugh-In".

Here is a bio:

http://laughstore.stores.yahoo.net/pigmeatmarkham.html

Nope, wasn't thinking of Flip, actually. Just trying to be funny. Sorry I failed.

eject me.
__________________
John
An ucking fidiot
Reply With Quote
  #49 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 07:21am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 4,361
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcblue13
We don't have ASA in the triad but I am always hopeful. I would like to have the constant evaluation and critique as well as the firm standard that ASA ball offers. The closest ASA to the triad is Burlington. A little far but I have gone much farther to do Fed games. GSO used to be ASA but switched to NSA a few years back. I really don't know why.
Most of the ball in this area is ASA, with one town that uses USSSA (not sure why, either). Since a lot of the people in this area are very fluid in moving around from Durham to Raleigh to Apex to Cary to Holly Springs, etc., it's nice to have consistent use of one association's rule books. Makes it easier on the players, as well as those of us who want to call some games. I can go to any of these towns and call.
__________________
Dave

I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
Reply With Quote
  #50 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 10:04am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 1,640
Quote:
Originally Posted by bkbjones
Nope, wasn't thinking of Flip, actually. Just trying to be funny. Sorry I failed.

eject me.
Oh, I thought that was plenty funny!

It's just that Markham's story is an interesting one and and your post reminded me of it.
Reply With Quote
  #51 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 02:28pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 261
I worked my first NSA tournament this past weekend, and found it to be a good experience over all. The umpires were very well treated, and I feel like on the whole, the crews were as good as the ASA crews around here.

NCASAUmp- Is the Rick Flair look alike from NC and does he do NSA fastpitch? Because if so, I think he was at my tournament this weekend.
Reply With Quote
  #52 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 02:37pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 4,361
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewNCref
NCASAUmp- Is the Rick Flair look alike from NC and does he do NSA fastpitch? Because if so, I think he was at my tournament this weekend.

Yes and yes. Did he behave himself?
__________________
Dave

I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
Reply With Quote
  #53 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 03:44pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 261
Quote:
Originally Posted by NCASAUmp
Yes and yes. Did he behave himself?
I never really got a chance to speak to him, and we worked on different fields, so I never worked with him or got to see him work.

I do remember a call he made once at an NSA tournament where I was observing.

BR running to first, ball hit hard back to pitcher, who dives, stops the ball, and rolls it to 1st for the out (ball beat runner by several steps). Umpire in question declares runner safe, because you cannot roll a ball to 1st base to make an out.

He got a stern "talking to" by the UIC after that game.
Reply With Quote
  #54 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 05:16pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 4,361
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewNCref
I never really got a chance to speak to him, and we worked on different fields, so I never worked with him or got to see him work.

I do remember a call he made once at an NSA tournament where I was observing.

BR running to first, ball hit hard back to pitcher, who dives, stops the ball, and rolls it to 1st for the out (ball beat runner by several steps). Umpire in question declares runner safe, because you cannot roll a ball to 1st base to make an out.

He got a stern "talking to" by the UIC after that game.
I'll bet you my next paycheck that was him. I honestly don't know why anyone continues to ask him to call games, as he makes stuff up as he goes. He's a thorn in our sides, and makes a mockery of our profession. He's the only umpire that I've told my boss not to put on the same field I'm on.

Further proof that I'm not making this stuff up!
__________________
Dave

I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.

Last edited by NCASAUmp; Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 05:19pm.
Reply With Quote
  #55 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 06:05pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Twin Cities MN
Posts: 8,154
Does anyone besides me think it is unseemly to single out for ongoing criticism on a public board an individual umpire in such a way that he can be identified?
__________________
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #56 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 06:45pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 45
Umpire Criticism

I am with you Dakota on this one. I would hope that if I as a Blue go out and have a not so good ball game, that my fellow Blue would not judge my ability. On the flip side of the post. If this Blue makes up calls or rules as he goes, where is his partner that could over rule his calls.I will close by saying that if they continue to just ignore him, and let him continue, they are only hurting the teams
__________________

ump mac
Reply With Quote
  #57 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 07:48pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Twin Cities MN
Posts: 8,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by mccann
I am with you Dakota on this one. I would hope that if I as a Blue go out and have a not so good ball game, that my fellow Blue would not judge my ability. ...
Actually, I have no problem with being judged by my fellow umpires. In fact, I'll ask here about decisions I've made that I thought might not have been correct or the best (see recent threads on CR rule at the plate meeting, and 2 strikes yer out). But, I asked for it. I don't imagine this guy did.
__________________
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #58 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 08:33pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 4,361
Quote:
Originally Posted by mccann
I am with you Dakota on this one. I would hope that if I as a Blue go out and have a not so good ball game, that my fellow Blue would not judge my ability. On the flip side of the post. If this Blue makes up calls or rules as he goes, where is his partner that could over rule his calls.I will close by saying that if they continue to just ignore him, and let him continue, they are only hurting the teams
The problem is not that he makes mistakes. The problem is that he, quite obvious to everyone who has dealt with him, just doesn't give a flying flip. He's walked off the field because "it's my birthday." He's made up rules, as I've talked about in other posts (and also mentioned in this thread by another umpire). He provides commentary and criticism on the game as he's calling it, much to the ire and frustration of the players. All the while, he has an air of superiority and arrogance that makes him unapproachable.

And to be honest, I hope he reads this thread, and I will have no problem telling him, "yeah, I posted that, and it's the truth."

Other umpires who have bad games will always have me covering their back. I know I've certainly had my fair share. However, this guy is one umpire whose back I will not have - because I won't work with him. My assignor knows this, and in talking with other umpires in our crew, I'm not the only one. Our assignor is finding that he's only able to put very few people with this guy, and I'm not sure why he keeps him.

Singling out an umpire for bad calls is not a habit of mine, but this guy is just that bad.
__________________
Dave

I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.

Last edited by NCASAUmp; Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 08:36pm.
Reply With Quote
  #59 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 09:57pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 261
I'll be honest, I more or less forgot where I was writing, and felt more like I was having a conversation with NCASAUmp.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Little League World Series VaASAump Softball 41 Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:56pm
RBI WORLD SERIES whiskers_ump Softball 7 Sat Aug 09, 2003 04:14pm
WORLD SERIES .... etbaseball Baseball 0 Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:28pm
D1 World Series Steve M Softball 15 Mon May 28, 2001 09:17pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:20pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1