Illegal Pitch????

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by umpinill

16U. Coach stated that the girl has been doing this for a long time, he feels that she is legal because the ball never enters the glove.

We've all heard this one before from a coach, including coaches who complain when I tell them to get rid of their yellow-barrel Evo. "But we've been using it all season!"

[debeau]

Ask the coach if the ball was hit and the pitcher caught the ball like that would it be a catch . He might get the idea then .

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by debeau

Ask the coach if the ball was hit and the pitcher caught the ball like that would it be a catch . He might get the idea then .

You actually are suggesting explaining two rules he doesn't know at the same time!

[debeau]

Dammit your right .
Coaches are confused enough already

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by debeau

Ask the coach if the ball was hit and the pitcher caught the ball like that would it be a catch . He might get the idea then .

I wouldn't... I'm having trouble seeing what this description has to do at all with the scenario posted. In fact, it seems CONTRARY to the point (the point being - POSSESSION in the glove is NOT required ... merely bringing the hands together (twice) is what makes the pitch illegal.

[debeau]

Read the wording of the first posting .
You are getting too technical for a coach with just saying bringing hands together . Lets start simple .

[bellnier]

debeau...some of us do read the book (although mines a tad out of date), participate in your forum in a civil way, and rarely (but not never) argue calls on the field...please don't paint us with your broad brush...

[debeau]

Bellnier
I appreciate what you are saying
Although you sort of fall on your own sword .
A rule book a tad out of date ( How many ASA rule changes in last 3 years )
I did actually mean that it is no good getting too technical on a diamond. often , not always , coaches are rather emotional when they come to argue/discuss a call and we are taught to keep things simple and to the point .
But maybe a little sarcasm crept into my post , I dint think a coach would have heard it !

[bellnier]

I'd NEVER use sarcasm on or off the field (wait...that WAS sarcasm...hmmm). Thanks. I know the rules are forever changing, and I'd better get a current rulebook...thankfully the principles of the game don't change much and word-of-mouth on the field and contributors to this forum keep me pretty current on most of the new rules (it also helps that I tip a few at a local watering hole frequented by the guys and gals in blue).

[IamMatt]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

We've all heard this one before from a coach, including coaches who complain when I tell them to get rid of their yellow-barrel Evo. "But we've been using it all season!"

"I'm sorry, Coach, if you would like to give me a list of all those games I will try to make sure your batters get DQ'd for them."