Illegal Pitch????

[umpinill]

16U. Coach stated that the girl has been doing this for a long time, he feels that she is legal because the ball never enters the glove.

[Dakota]

There is no requirement for the ball to EVER enter the glove. The requirement is for the pitcher to bring the hands together, and to do this once and only once before delivering the ball.

ASA Rule 6
Section 3. LEGAL DELIVERY.
A. The pitcher must not make any motion to pitch without immediately delivering the ball to the batter.
B. The pitcher must not use a pitching motion in which, after bringing the hands together, the pitcher removes one hand from the ball, and returns the ball to both hands.

Your pitcher is likely violating both "A" and "B".

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by umpinill

16U. Coach stated that the girl has been doing this for a long time, he feels that she is legal because the ball never enters the glove.

Speaking ASA

Coach is mistaken and needs to reread the rule (though I doubt the coach read it in the first place). The requirement is for the hands to come together. There is no mention of being inside the glove.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by umpinill

16U. Coach stated that the girl has been doing this for a long time, he feels that she is legal because the ball never enters the glove.

We've all heard this one before from a coach, including coaches who complain when I tell them to get rid of their yellow-barrel Evo. "But we've been using it all season!"

[debeau]

Ask the coach if the ball was hit and the pitcher caught the ball like that would it be a catch . He might get the idea then .

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by debeau

Ask the coach if the ball was hit and the pitcher caught the ball like that would it be a catch . He might get the idea then .

You actually are suggesting explaining two rules he doesn't know at the same time!

[debeau]

Dammit your right .
Coaches are confused enough already

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by debeau

Ask the coach if the ball was hit and the pitcher caught the ball like that would it be a catch . He might get the idea then .

I wouldn't... I'm having trouble seeing what this description has to do at all with the scenario posted. In fact, it seems CONTRARY to the point (the point being - POSSESSION in the glove is NOT required ... merely bringing the hands together (twice) is what makes the pitch illegal.

[debeau]

Read the wording of the first posting .
You are getting too technical for a coach with just saying bringing hands together . Lets start simple .

[bellnier]

debeau...some of us do read the book (although mines a tad out of date), participate in your forum in a civil way, and rarely (but not never) argue calls on the field...please don't paint us with your broad brush...

[debeau]

Bellnier
I appreciate what you are saying
Although you sort of fall on your own sword .
A rule book a tad out of date ( How many ASA rule changes in last 3 years )
I did actually mean that it is no good getting too technical on a diamond. often , not always , coaches are rather emotional when they come to argue/discuss a call and we are taught to keep things simple and to the point .
But maybe a little sarcasm crept into my post , I dint think a coach would have heard it !

[IamMatt]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

We've all heard this one before from a coach, including coaches who complain when I tell them to get rid of their yellow-barrel Evo. "But we've been using it all season!"

"I'm sorry, Coach, if you would like to give me a list of all those games I will try to make sure your batters get DQ'd for them."