Look Back Rule..

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Originally Posted by CecilOne

I understand theapplication of the rule, but maybe not the semantics of this discussion. Please help me follow how a fake throw is an
"attempt by a defensive player to retire a batter-runner or runner"
if the
"movement could not reasonably lead to a possible out".

Instead of taking partial comments out of multiple posts, let's just address what I stated

In ASA, it must be an attempt to retire a runner or BR. IOW, if the movement could not reasonably lead to a possible out, it is not a play.

I've never said that a "fake throw" was not a play. Obviously, if the pitcher released the ball, the runner could be put out, hence it meets the definition of "play".

That doesn't mean that any movement by the pitcher is a fake throw or a play. A pitcher "rolling" the ball in her hand by her side is movement, but not a play. A pitcher moving the ball back and forth between the hand and glove is a movement, but not a play.