Lineup Card Management

[Chess Ref]

Being An ex accountant I take pride in my line up cards. . My routine changes take less than a minute but just yesterday had the JV coach who twisted her whole line up around. I caught by the new catcher in the cathchers box.....took about 3 minutes....

[JefferMC]

Most of the umpires calling my daughter's school games don't keep the line up. When we have a sub, they say, "tell the other team." And you've seen from my posts the kind of situations it gets them (and us) into. I'm hoping things get better up at the varsity levels.

I can't make general statements like that about the NSA and ASA umpires in this area. Many of them do keep a tight ship on the line ups.

[blueump]

Both I and my partner keep a good line-up card recording subs, conferences, etc.. It never takes more than 30 seconds to record a change.

The other night however, we had a batter out of order - reported to us by the opposing team. She was reported to come in for #1 on defense, but 3 innings later was batting for #3, while #1 was still in the line-up. The coach explained that she "mistold" us #1 and that she meant #3 - which meant that had already batted for #3 two innings ago.

The coach was really ticked that we did not "catch" this error for 3 full innings. Is it really our place as umpires to make sure that batter is correct each at bat? I wouldn't think that part of an umpire's job is "preventative" in this case. For me, I let them bat, not checking the line-up unless I need to.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by blueump

For me, I let them bat, not checking the line-up unless I need to.

That's exactly what I do. The coaches should keep up with the batting order, whether it is for their team or the opposing team.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by blueump

The coach was really ticked that we did not "catch" this error for 3 full innings. Is it really our place as umpires to make sure that batter is correct each at bat? .

No.

BOO is an appeal made by the defense. An appeal is a play that may not be ruled on by the umpire until the appeal is made, so even if you noticed it, keep your trap shut!

[blueump]

One more question. If the "official scorer" is the home team book, and they have the substitution listed as the coach intended, not as reported to the ump, then do we officially have a BOO?

Is there an official book, as in say basketball or volleyball, or is the umpire's line-up the correct one?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by blueump

One more question. If the "official scorer" is the home team book, and they have the substitution listed as the coach intended, not as reported to the ump, then do we officially have a BOO?

Is there an official book, as in say basketball or volleyball, or is the umpire's line-up the correct one?

The answer is your signature line.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by blueump

The coach was really ticked that we did not "catch" this error for 3 full innings. Is it really our place as umpires to make sure that batter is correct each at bat? I wouldn't think that part of an umpire's job is "preventative" in this case. For me, I let them bat, not checking the line-up unless I need to.

How in the world are we suppose to memorize the line up ? Unless it's the pitcher or catcher I generally don't notice which little DD is batting 6 th or wherever.....Coach is ticked LOL LOL

I do a good job on my line up card. It's the coaches job to make sure everyone bats when they are suppose to. My job is fix their sub/BOO mistakes.