Pinch runner for a courtesy runner?

[Ed Maeder]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

OK, could the Offensive coach have changed #8 from a CR to a PR THEn replaced #8? This all seems silly, but I would like to do things correctly.

Joe in Michigan

No the CR can not be used as a sub(PR) in the same half inning as they CR. Unless injury or DQ.

[jwwashburn]

Oh yeah...dumb quetion.

[Reffin' Sgt]

Originally Posted by JEL

That sounds plausible, but I'm not sure it is legal.

ASA and NFHS CR rules are identical, so in doing some digging per ASA I found a 2007 ASA test question which is pertinent.

36FP) JO Fast Pitch. In the bottom of the third inning, B1, who is the catcher, leads off with a single. After reaching 1B the offensive coach requests time and reports CR1 for the catcher. R2 executes a sacrifice bunt moving CR1 to 2B. The offensive coach again requests time and reports that S1 will substitute for B1, the catcher, and CR1 will return to the dugout. The umpire rules:
a. Illegal, a substitute may not enter the game for a courtesy runner.
b. Illegal, the team must put the catcher back in for the courtesy runner.
c. Legal and S1 replaces the catcher in the line-up.
d. None of the above.

The answer key says "d" is the correct answer, which would make "c" not legal. The rules reference though is to 8-9-B-2 which is NOT the Fast Pitch section. I can't find where subbing for the catcher would be dis-allowed in the rules, but according to the test it would not be allowed. Perhaps there is a mis-print in the ASA test, or (heaven forbid) I am not reading something correctly!

I have the answer sheet and the correct answer is "C" with the following rules references: Rule 4 Section 6; Rule 8 Section 9; Rule 8 Section 10A; Rule 8 Section 10F. I don't have my rule book with me to verify these but hope this helps.

Doug