Pinch runner

bobbrix · #1 (**permalink**) Sun May 02, 2004, 10:02pm

1st game coming up this Wednesday!!

This is a leftover from last year ....

Coach comes up to me and says, if the next batter (a starter on the lineup) gets on base, I'm putting in a runner for her. Her leg is sore.

Sure enough, she gets to 1st on a walk. Coach calls time and the pinch runner comes in.

Inning is soon over. Player with sore leg trots back on to the field, pinch runner stays on the bench.

I don't see anything in my rule book saying a pinch runner is a substitute or that the player that went to the bench is considered removed.

Is it implied elsewhere?

Can the pinch runner re-enter ?

Bagman62 · #2 (**permalink**) Sun May 02, 2004, 10:33pm

I would confirm with the coach that the Pinch Runner is a substitute (preventive umpiring)and make the change on my lineup card and report to official scorer. If I saw the starter return I would ask the coach if this was a reentry, again defensive umpiring, if reentry report to official scorer. Then the pinch runner is a substitute that has been in the game and is eligible for reentry.

Without the defensive umpiring you may set your self up for an appeal of an illegal sub as the changes can not be made on condition and must be made at the time the substitution takes place

Ed Maeder · #3 (**permalink**) Sun May 02, 2004, 11:20pm

First of all what rules is this game being played under? Different rules for different organizations.

[Edited by Ed Maeder on May 3rd, 2004 at 12:23 AM]

WestMichBlue · #4 (**permalink**) Mon May 03, 2004, 12:16am

"I don't see anything in my rule book saying a pinch runner is a substitute or that the player that went to the bench is considered removed."

In ASA there is no such thing as a "pinch runner." If you replace a player, that is a substitution, whether as a runer or batter or center fielder. And all substitution, including re-entry, rules apply.

NFHS does use the words pinch hitter or pinch runner, but they are noted as substitutes in the definitions.

WMB

whiskers_ump · #5 (**permalink**) Mon May 03, 2004, 05:45am

Quote:

Originally posted by bobbrix
1st game coming up this Wednesday!!

This is a leftover from last year ....

Coach comes up to me and says, if the next batter (a starter on the lineup) gets on base, I'm putting in a runner for her. Her leg is sore.

Sure enough, she gets to 1st on a walk. Coach calls time and the pinch runner comes in.

Inning is soon over. Player with sore leg trots back on to the field, pinch runner stays on the bench.

I don't see anything in my rule book saying a pinch runner is a substitute or that the player that went to the bench is considered removed.

Is it implied elsewhere?

If the runner in question is F1 or F2 then they would be
entitled to a CR, unless they are the DP. However, even
in this case, the replacement should be reported to the
plate umpire. A CR for the pitcher or catcher does not
count as a substitutions for the player. Some associations
allow the last out of the innining to be used as a runner.
As Ed asked, what rules are you playing under?

Can the pinch runner re-enter ? [B]

[Edited by whiskers_ump on May 3rd, 2004 at 06:47 AM]