Slow Pitch Umps

[Chess Ref]

I have been encouraged by my NFHS/ASA assignor to help out on the slowpitch side of things this year. SO I have some slowpitch questions. I have looked in the book but my research skills seem to be lacking. So you SP umps have some patience with me and HELP.......please

Illegal Pitch= too high, too low, hits ground before home plate, hits home plate........is my thinking correct on these ?

[CLBuffalo]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I have been encouraged by my NFHS/ASA assignor to help out on the slowpitch side of things this year. SO I have some slowpitch questions. I have looked in the book but my research skills seem to be lacking. So you SP umps have some patience with me and HELP.......please

Illegal Pitch= too high, too low, hits ground before home plate, hits home plate........is my thinking correct on these ?

IP on too high or too low.

Dead ball and ball on the batter if pitch hits the plate or anywhere on the ground before passing home plate. Also batter can not swing at any pitch that has hit the plate or the ground.

Good luck.

[azbigdawg]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I have been encouraged by my NFHS/ASA assignor to help out on the slowpitch side of things this year. SO I have some slowpitch questions. I have looked in the book but my research skills seem to be lacking. So you SP umps have some patience with me and HELP.......please

Illegal Pitch= too high, too low, hits ground before home plate, hits home plate........is my thinking correct on these ?

Good luck. Its a great game..... sometimes its even ok at the beer league level. Just like FP learn the nuances from your senior people...the ASA manual has a pretty good umpire section also.

[SWFLguy]

I worked a league back in CNY that had a league rule
that a ball hitting the plate was a strike !!!
Talk about taking the bat out the the hitter's hands !
There also was a women's league that used a mat---
horrible games when you had a pitcher that couldn't lob
the ball onto it. I felt like asking batters why they bothered
brinig a bat with them !
WALK-WALK- WALK- WALK-.............
(groan)

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by SWFLguy

I worked a league back in CNY that had a league rule
that a ball hitting the plate was a strike !!!
Talk about taking the bat out the the hitter's hands !
There also was a women's league that used a mat---
horrible games when you had a pitcher that couldn't lob
the ball onto it. I felt like asking batters why they bothered
brinig a bat with them !
WALK-WALK- WALK- WALK-.............
(groan)

The introduction of the mat and a strike for hitting the plate was the final dumbing down of the game.
I umpired SP for many years, and endured many dense players but even they dont' like the mat.

With the mat, the game becomes a joke all together.

[azbigdawg]

Originally Posted by scottk_61

The introduction of the mat and a strike for hitting the plate was the final dumbing down of the game.
I umpired SP for many years, and endured many dense players but even they dont' like the mat.

With the mat, the game becomes a joke all together.

What he said..I cringe when I volunteer to work a league with the mat.... dumbest rule ever.

[NDblue]

The only time they use a mat around here is if there isn't an umpire. Fall co-ed is the only league that uses them because they aren't willing to pay to have a live body behind the catcher.

[Chess Ref]

So let me make sure I have this correct .

1. Illegal Pitch means the pitch was too low or too high ?
2. I signal DDB. Batters doesn't swing. Ball on batter . runners advance 1 base. Correct ?

3. Batter swings -play on - Correct ?


4. Ball hits ground=dead ball, do you signal dead ball like in FP ?

[archangel]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

So let me make sure I have this correct .

1. Illegal Pitch means the pitch was too low or too high ?
2. I signal DDB. Batters doesn't swing. Ball on batter . runners advance 1 base. Correct ?

3. Batter swings -play on - Correct ?


4. Ball hits ground=dead ball, do you signal dead ball like in FP ?

1. yes, those are 2 examples of IP
2. Wrong, runners dont advance on high/low illegal pitches
3. Yes, play on
4. Yes

[jimpiano]

Unless there is stealing signaling dead ball is a waste of effort. Nothing in slow pitch can happen until the batter swings.

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Unless there is stealing signaling dead ball is a waste of effort. Nothing in slow pitch can happen until the batter swings.

It might be wasted effort, but it is a required mechanic that will save you some grief at some point when the whiner,,,,,I mean pitcher, says, "but you didn't signal illegal, you can't claim it after the pitch got there,"

CYA, make the signal too

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by scottk_61

It might be wasted effort, but it is a required mechanic that will save you some grief at some point when the whiner,,,,,I mean pitcher, says, "but you didn't signal illegal, you can't claim it after the pitch got there,"

CYA, make the signal too

The question referred to a dead ball, i.e hitting the ground before the plate,,,,This is not an illegal pitch or a delayed dead ball and requires no signal, verbal or visual, unless there is stealing.

On an illegal pitch the umpire can declare it at anytime the umpire determines it is illegal,,,even if this means when it has become dead by being caught by the catcher.

Everyone on the field can whine ....but it changes nothing.

[archangel]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

So let me make sure I have this correct .

1. Illegal Pitch means the pitch was too low or too high ?
2. I signal DDB. Batters doesn't swing. Ball on batter . runners advance 1 base. Correct ?

3. Batter swings -play on - Correct ?


4. Ball hits ground=dead ball, do you signal dead ball like in FP ?

1. yes, those are 2 examples of IP
2. Wrong, runners dont advance on high/low illegal pitches, and calling out "illegal pitch" is enough (lets batter know)
3. Yes, play on
4. Yes

[rodan55]

Will the games be played with stealing?

[Chess Ref]

I don't believe there is stealing allowed. This are pretty much middle to high beer leagues.......