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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 10:43am
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If "the manual says" is a valid guideline, the manual also advises against using unauthorized signals.

Since the "fist pound" is not described in said manual, it is an unauthorized signal.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 11:37am
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If "the manual says" is a valid guideline, the manual also advises against using unauthorized signals.

Since the "fist pound" is not described in said manual, it is an unauthorized signal.
As I said before, I have used the signal for years along with countless other contemporaries. If you prefer to use the book as your only guide to signals, that is your choice. I find the signal useful in the lower leagues and is univsersally understood.

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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 11:52am
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As I said before, I have used the signal for years along with countless other contemporaries. If you prefer to use the book as your only guide to signals, that is your choice. I find the signal useful in the lower leagues and is univsersally understood.

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It is not universally understood, and many teams would wonder what in the H#### you are saying with that signal.

why don't you admit that you would rather just do things, "your way" instead of using the prescribed mechanics,
and admit that you pick and choose what guidelines to use in spite of the Umpire Mechanics section of the rule book?

In other words, why don't you admit that you are a dud?
and that you have no desire to change?
and that you are a troll?

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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 12:48pm
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It is not universally understood, and many teams would wonder what in the H#### you are saying with that signal.

why don't you admit that you would rather just do things, "your way" instead of using the prescribed mechanics,
and admit that you pick and choose what guidelines to use in spite of the Umpire Mechanics section of the rule book?

In other words, why don't you admit that you are a dud?
and that you have no desire to change?
and that you are a troll?

etc
etc
etc
Thanks for the advice, although the ad hominems diminish your credibility in my opinion.

I will make sure that in all ASA sanctioned games to follow the guidelines.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 01:16pm
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[quote=jimpiano]Thanks for the advice, although the ad hominems diminish your credibility in my opinion.
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Your opinion of my credibility is NOT one of my greater worries in life.

It is really too bad that you can't just admit that you need to change and adapt to proper mechanics.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 03:32pm
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[QUOTE=scottk_61][quote=jimpiano]Thanks for the advice, although the ad hominems diminish your credibility in my opinion.
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Your opinion of my credibility is NOT one of my greater worries in life.

It is really too bad that you can't just admit that you need to change and adapt to proper mechanics.
This forum is not exclusive to ASA, not even umpires.

The leagues I work in all have variations of rules and regulations, none conform to any particular rulebook. The umpires are supervised by the league commissioners.

I do belong to ASA and attend the local clinics. The ASA tournaments are dwindling,however. When working for ASA I do try and follow its guidelines.

The plate signal you so abhor will always be used in the leagues I feel it will be helpful to the players.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 04:03pm
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...I feel it will be helpful to the players.
You never have answered the question of what the players do differently because of your fist pumping that they would not have done with a simple "ball". So, why and how is it helpful?
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 06:13pm
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[quote=jimpiano][quote=scottk_61]
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Thanks for the advice, although the ad hominems diminish your credibility in my opinion.
Are you still here?
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This forum is not exclusive to ASA, not even umpires.
Yet the OP was.
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