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Old Mon Aug 21, 2006, 08:22am
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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
thats the part that convolutes it..

You guys are retroactively stopping the clock. Going back and adding time on the game in a soccer manner. "Well because of this play I'll go back"

The out doesnt matter, the thing that matters is that live ball play continued past the expiration of the clock, a play was reversed on dead ball appeal, and, according to some of you, the clock adjusted to the play.

since this doesnt happen at any other point in the game, it cant happen. the clock doesnt stop, time doesnt get added on. this isnt football or soccer.

If you adjust the clock here, why wouldnt it be adjusted in any other inning?

You cant just make up a new rule.
For some reason, you're obsessed with the clock. No one is adding time to the clock or reversing time at all. Forget the clock for a minute.

The timing of an out coincides with the moment of occurence of that out. Not the time it was announced by the umpire. This is consistent throughout any time that TIMING is important. When deciding whether an out occurred before or after another event (such as a runner scoring, or yes - such as the end of the game due to time constraints), it is the timing of the out occurring that matters, not the time that the umpire announces it.

In the OP, it is very simple - the third out occurred before time ran out. The fact that the clock continued running and ran out before the umpire was able to announce the out is immaterial.

The thing that kills me here is that in your logic, had the PU ruled that the batter swung, he would have called the out before time expired and you'd go to another inning - but because the umpire failed to notice or recognize the swing, and only upon appeal did the strike get called, you feel it's fair to end the game. In other words, the only thing causing the game to end is the delayed call. That's wrong on every level.
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