Does a coach ever win an argument?

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by fastpitch

I still hate to hear arrogant umpires brag about how they don't ask for help even when it might be warranted.

What about arrogant coaches who think they can intimidate umpires into changing a call or into giving them a call in return?

[fastpitch]

That just opens up the "It's about the players, not about the coaches or the umpires". If you are intimidated every time a coach protests, ... As a former coach, I have very little tolerance of a demonstrative coach that does not know the rules but if they approach in a professional manner they should be treated with the same respect we demand.

After 10 years of coaching travel ball, this was the appeal I most remember and totally agree with Mike - the poor PU had no clue - the other team had out played us to that point. I prefer to remember the ones where we won the tournament outright. I've served as a youth fastpitch tournament director where I kept the protest fee, etc ,etc.

All I can hope for is to get better at umpiring every game - reading this forum helps but there is certainly no substitute for game experience.

[tcannizzo]

One of my favorite lines was from Caddyshack when Rodney Dangerfield went to the tournament official with a fist full of bills and said, "Keep it fair, keep it fair".