Out of play rules, 3rd base side (no fence)

[Mountaineer]

Maybe I'm missing something here (probable!). Is this a batted ball that goes into dead ball territory? That's a two base award from the time of the pitch.

I agree with mcrowder, was this covered in pregame conference? If DB territory is not clearly marked, you need to define it in pregame. From what I've read, in my game the BR goes back to second.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

Maybe I'm missing something here (probable!). Is this a batted ball that goes into dead ball territory? That's a two base award from the time of the pitch.

I agree with mcrowder, was this covered in pregame conference? If DB territory is not clearly marked, you need to define it in pregame. From what I've read, in my game the BR goes back to second.

Exactly.

And yes, any batted ball the fielder can reach and catch in flight is an out, as long as the fielder is in play.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Exactly.

And yes, any batted ball the fielder can reach and catch in flight is an out, as long as the fielder is in play.

And pray it isn't a catch and carry . . .

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

And pray it isn't a catch and carry . . .

Those are fun, because no matter what we rule, no one knows whether we are correct, except that we are always wrong.

Some others have suggested that I should pray on every call anyway.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Some others have suggested that I should pray on every call anyway.

And some have suggested I STOP praying and open my eyes!

[tzme415]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

And some have suggested I STOP praying and open my eyes!

Originally Posted by CecilOne
Some others have suggested that I should pray on every call anyway.

Just goes to show that no matter what you call - One side isn't going to be happy

[celebur]

Speaking Softball Canada (because that's what bobbrix officiates, iirc). . .

1) As others have already said, it's a two-base award. See Rule 8-7i:

Runners are entitled to advance without liability to be put out when a fair ball bounces over, or rolls under or through a fence or any designated boundary of the playing field. . .

EFFECT - The ball is dead and all runners are awarded two bases from the time of pitch.

2) The Softball Canada ruleset is not explicitly clear about what constitutes a legal catch in this case, but it is covered in the case book. See cases 1-36 and 8-88.

For this to be a legally caught fly ball, the fielder must first touch the ball while any part of his/her body is still in playable territory and must establish possession before any part of the DBT is contacted.

When there is no fence, then theoretically the fielder can leap for the ball and make a legal catch provided that s/he touched the ball before his/her trailing ankle crossed over the dead-ball line and that s/he didn't bobble the ball after coming down in DBT. Of course any runner(s) would be awarded one base.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by tzme415

Originally Posted by CecilOne
Some others have suggested that I should pray on every call anyway.

Just goes to show that no matter what you call - One side isn't going to be happy

Line of the day

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

And some have suggested I STOP praying and open my eyes!

Now, Larry. To semi-quote a friend of mine - "What rule sez I have to see it?!? I just have to call it." And this guy is a one-eyed ump who even has a handicapped license plate.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by Steve M

Now, Larry. To semi-quote a friend of mine - "What rule sez I have to see it?!? I just have to call it." And this guy is a one-eyed ump who even has a handicapped license plate.

Sure - heck in WV, we call em all by sound anyway . . .