Retroactive Interference?

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

My call is DEAD BALL BATTER OUT on INT in foul territory, all runners return to base at time of pitch, AND a strike on the batter.

let's forget that you can't call this batter out....

How can you have the batter out AND call a strike on the batter ... which batter, the next one?

Of course, this is merely a foul ball, even if intent is ruled.

[tcannizzo]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

let's forget that you can't call this batter out....

How can you have the batter out AND call a strike on the batter ... which batter, the next one?

Of course, this is merely a foul ball, even if intent is ruled.

Typo on my original post. I meant that I would call the runner closest to home out and a strike on the batter.


Reason being is that by rule this was a foul ball, and therefore you cannot award the batter first base as would normally be done on runner INT.

[mcrowder]

Tom, I believe you are confusing the issue and awarding bases in completely unwarranted circumstances...

Your definition of foul is incomplete - one of the things that can make a ball foul (see D) is a runner interfering with a fielder trying to field a ball while it's over foul territory. Therefore, in the OP, we have a foul ball.

In the definition of interference, there is no penalty listed for interference while a grounded ball is foul. For there to be an out for interference, there must be a play to be interfered with. In the OP, we do not have an out. We simply have a foul ball. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Tom, ...

Hey, you talkin' to me? You talkin' to ME?

We have multiple "Tom"s in this thread!

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Hey, you talkin' to me? You talkin' to ME?

We have multiple "Tom"s in this thread!

See, this is where we get in trouble naming names - OMG! That was the OTHER thread . . .

[mcrowder]

WMB - I don't have to "work it out" - it's worked out for me in the rulebook.

It is a foul ball the moment the runner interferes with a fielder trying to make a play on it. (Note that the rule doesn't say "Commits Interference" which is what you are trying to tie this to). Someone can interfere with play and have it not be "Interference". This case is one of them. F2 firing to third on a steal and nailing the batter in the helmet is another - yes the play was interfered with but it is not "Interference".

I don't have to worry about your first part - the ball is already foul (and dead). A dead ball can go where ever it wants, and will not regain live status (or fair status).

The definition of Interference does not include this play (a foul grounded ball), thus there is no penalty. Foul ball. Very simple.