Little League softball substitutions

[Az.Ump]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

If "especially wild" equals ridiculous.

Cecil,

Can’t say that I disagree. This is a fairly new substitution rule. Before it was like all others where the players were always tied to the one batting slot unless injuries caused reentry of a player. L.L. offers the option of CBO but has never mandated it. Under the old substitution rules you often got a split between the starters and subs of either 2 and 4 innings or 3 and 3. This rule allows a 12 player roster to get the majority of the players 4 innings in a full 6 inning game. If the manager subs in the top of the third, the starters who came out can be eligible to reenter in the 5th and if put in for other starters who have stayed in the game rather than the subs who came in during the 3rd, then no player would have played less than 4 innings. Convoluted to say the least. It requires the umpire to check with the scorer to verify that the starter's sub has completed their MPR prior to allowing reentry. In some locations during the all-star tournament they remove the responsibility of changes from the umpire and require all changes to go through the official score keeper.

Paul

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Az.Ump

Cecil,

Can’t say that I disagree. This is a fairly new substitution rule. Before it was like all others where the players were always tied to the one batting slot unless injuries caused reentry of a player. L.L. offers the option of CBO but has never mandated it. Under the old substitution rules you often got a split between the starters and subs of either 2 and 4 innings or 3 and 3. This rule allows a 12 player roster to get the majority of the players 4 innings in a full 6 inning game. If the manager subs in the top of the third, the starters who came out can be eligible to reenter in the 5th and if put in for other starters who have stayed in the game rather than the subs who came in during the 3rd, then no player would have played less than 4 innings. Convoluted to say the least. It requires the umpire to check with the scorer to verify that the starter's sub has completed their MPR prior to allowing reentry. In some locations during the all-star tournament they remove the responsibility of changes from the umpire and require all changes to go through the official score keeper.

Paul

OK, so my super-fast granddaughter can be the leadoff batter for her team; then if not coming to bat in the next inning can be replaced by a sub; and then after the sub completes MPR; she can run for whichever slow runner gets on base.

[Az.Ump]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

OK, so my super-fast granddaughter can be the leadoff batter for her team; then if not coming to bat in the next inning can be replaced by a sub; and then after the sub completes MPR; she can run for whichever slow runner gets on base.

Yes she could and if her teammate is the Barry Bonds of her team she could bat in the last inning anywhere you want her to. Right after you put speedy in would work just fine. Just remember any one reentered must than meet MPR again inorder to be substituted for. So if you put the good hitter in and now want to pull her for speedy, no can do. Isn't that just special?

Paul

[UmpireErnie]

LL does not seem to recognize an “Illegal Substitute”. What happens if a player enters the game in violation of 3.03? Obviously if we detect it at the time of substitution we simply don’t allow it to happen. But what if we miss it or if the substitution is not reported and play begins?