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Thanks guys -
I think some of these guys play 16" or USSSA and forget you can't fake in ASA 12", but I did have one guy just say that he was losing his grip on the ball so he stopped. One more question on this, If the pitcher does a fake, should I call time and make him restart the delivery or just call illegal pitch and let the batter decide if he wants to swing at the pitch? Its the ones that only get to just under 6 ft that are hard to call for me because I have to wait until it gets about 1/2 way to the plate to see if it going to get high enough. Then by the time I say illegal the batter is already swinging, this is especially bad if there are already 2 strikes. I'll just work on seeing the pitch and trying to be quicker with the call. And thank Mike for giving me something of a comeback if they give me a hard time. ![]()
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[QUOTE=tzme415]Thanks guys -
I think some of these guys play 16" or USSSA and forget you can't fake in ASA 12", but I did have one guy just say that he was losing his grip on the ball so he stopped. One more question on this, If the pitcher does a fake, should I call time and make him restart the delivery or just call illegal pitch and let the batter decide if he wants to swing at the pitch?[quote] No, if the pitcher literally stops, as opposed to hesitating, kill it and award a ball. Quote:
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[QUOTE=IRISHMAFIA][QUOTE=tzme415]Thanks guys -
I think some of these guys play 16" or USSSA and forget you can't fake in ASA 12", but I did have one guy just say that he was losing his grip on the ball so he stopped. One more question on this, If the pitcher does a fake, should I call time and make him restart the delivery or just call illegal pitch and let the batter decide if he wants to swing at the pitch?[quote] No, if the pitcher literally stops, as opposed to hesitating, kill it and award a ball. ____ Hmmm, killing it. I believe you hold that arm out until after the delivery. The batter has the option of taking the ball or swinging.
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No, Joe.. if he stops, he's completed THAT delivery, and the IP is immediate. You don't wait for him to reinitiate a new delivery.
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We are talking about a pitch that is NOT delivered. There is no ball for the batter to possibly hit. An IP is enforced when the play is over. There is no pitch coming. The play is over. The umpire calls time and applies the penalty for the IP as that cannot be done during a live ball.
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I don't ever recall a pitcher who started their delivery, did something for an IP and then step off the plate. So, as along as he is on the plate, I should consider this as a continuation of the delivery/pitch. Only when he steps off do I say the play is complete, award a ball, and start over. IF IP is called, DDB, and no release to the batter and the batter swings at that moment, then I have a strike. If this is correct- what an easy game.
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