Balk/Illegal Pitch???

[David Emerling]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Dave, you ask questions. You are provided answers of fact.

You then insist on arguing about anything which doesn't fit into your belief of what is right and do it while ignoring the already provided information.

Fair enough. I won't belabor my opinion on DP/FLEX nor ASA's reluctance to make their rules readily available. You're right. I'm probably beating a dead horse. My opinion is known - some agree, some disagree. I guess we can leave it at that.

You continue to bring an uniformed opinion to the mix as you just demonstrated above concerning the 3-game guarantee.

Did you mean "uniformed" or "uninformed" opinion?

If you meant UNINFORMED then I would only say that my description of the format of ASA qualifiers and national tournaments is 100% accurate. The tournament host must comply with the format as mandated by ASA. Many find that format disagreeable.

Again, I can only speak from experience. I have attended many ASA qualifers and several national tournaments. The participants would prefer a different format.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

[Dakota]

Quoting myself...

Originally Posted by Dakota

This issue of giving away the published rules on the internet is juvenile whining.

See? Ample evidence of that in this thread.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

BTW, PONY moved to more ASA-like rules because, at least in this area, poach ASA umpires along with the uniforms.

I'm offended.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I know umpires who were told to use ASA rules when working PONY tournaments because it didn't make any difference.

Ancient history.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Leagues register PONY for the benefit of "earning" non-qualifying berths to what are basically open national tournaments.

More because it is less expensive and in many areas requires less travel cost.

Form what I see, umpires around here would gladly welcome back ASA Fastpitch and so would teams if ASA were more flexible.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I'm offended.

Nothing I can do about that, it is the truth. I have personally witnessed it TO THE POINT that I was told to my face by a PONY representative they were doing exactly that in the middle of a meeting. I have also found them preying upon new umpires and lying to them about the sanctioning and insurance coverage during an ASA State Clinic.

I have no problem if the umpire wants to work PONY or any other game, but not on my time and sweat.

More because it is less expensive and in many areas requires less travel cost.

Form what I see, umpires around here would gladly welcome back ASA Fastpitch and so would teams if ASA were more flexible.

Have no idea what you are talking about there. I am included in the JO meetings with the different leagues and travel teams and have been told that the reason they hosted PONY tournaments is so they don't have to qualify. Travelling to any location is just as expensive regardless of the sanctioning body.