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We've had a number of issues come up in league play the past couple of weeks (every year, as the weather gets hotter, so do the coaches) that there's been quite a bit of disagreement and discussion about. Just wondering what everyone else thinks...
Would you... Eject a coach for throwing a bat against a bat rack (filled with other bats) as a reaction to an error by his players? Eject a coach for throwing a bat against a bat rack as a reaction to a call he disagreed with? Eject a coach for bringing a rulebook on the field, wanting to "discuss" a rule interpretation? Stop to answer a parent's question after the game? Would it matter how they approached you? Ever not wear a chest protector?
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Eject a coach for throwing a bat against a bat rack (filled with other bats) as a reaction to an error by his players? Yes Eject a coach for throwing a bat against a bat rack as a reaction to a call he disagreed with?Yes Eject a coach for bringing a rulebook on the field, wanting to "discuss" a rule interpretation?Bringing it on the field is one thing, but trying to show umpire up is another. I would not allow it. Stop to answer a parent's question after the game? Would it matter how they approached you?If I can answer their question quickly and it is properly presented, I would answer. Ever not wear a chest protector? Yes, many many years ago. Won't now, have had heart surgery.
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Eject a coach for throwing a bat against a bat rack (filled with other bats) as a reaction to an error by his players? Most certainly, if he threw it. Maybe not if he tossed it hard to the rack. It's one of those HTBT's. But, if he threw it, he's gone.
Eject a coach for throwing a bat against a bat rack as a reaction to a call he disagreed with? Absolutely. Not only for the USC, it's just dangerous to others near the rack. Eject a coach for bringing a rulebook on the field, wanting to "discuss" a rule interpretation? Like Glen, he can bring it on the field, he just doesn't need to prove his point by opening it up. That's what protests are for. Stop to answer a parent's question after the game? Would it matter how they approached you? Sure. I answer questions all the time. If they come up to me looking for a confrontation, it's time for me to go get some water. Ever not wear a chest protector? I never wear one. There is a lot of debate on this board about this over the past years. It's just too darned hot down here. And I have the Honigs K-2. It's light, I just don't need any more equipment on than necessary. I'd rather have the bruise than melt down out there. The only concern I have about this is taking one off the collar bone and breaking it. I'm through for the season if that happens and I enjoy the game too much to want to sit out. But, then, again, to me, it's too hot down here. It hit 105 just SW of Ft Worth today. That's almost uncomfortable! [Edited by TexBlue on Jul 3rd, 2005 at 11:32 PM]
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a) Eject a coach for throwing a bat against a bat rack (filled with other bats) as a reaction to an error by his players? b) Eject a coach for throwing a bat against a bat rack as a reaction to a call he disagreed with? c) Eject a coach for bringing a rulebook on the field, wanting to "discuss" a rule interpretation? d) Stop to answer a parent's question after the game? Would it matter how they approached you? e) Ever not wear a chest protector? _________ a) No (as long as it happens in his/her dugout) b) No (as previous one) c) No (as long as this is NOT a try to embarass the umpire) d) After the game the only GOOD path is DIRECT from the field to the dressing room. Only well AFTER a shower and a certain amount of time, with NO uniform on, I allow myself to have a small conversation with parents or whoever. Before that I will reply with a gentle smile 'We can talk about this later on'. They can wait and you'll have time to think and relax... e) No. No matter how hot and uncomfortable it is (and sure IT IS). A.
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[Edited by IRISHMAFIA on Jul 5th, 2005 at 07:20 AM]
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of the heat. They are not doing it as a "macho" thing, it is just the heat and nautrally the humidity here that makes some want to shed some of the armour. As stated I started wearing mine again after heart surgery. But the damn thing is hot. (Honigs K2)
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My opinion: A) No-unless it filtered onto the field B) No-as above C) No-unless the coach became a jack*** D)Yes-provided they approached me in a polite manner away from the field and "crowd" E) No-(except for slow pitch)-my body parts need to go home with me in good shape
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Would you...
1-Eject a coach for throwing a bat against a bat rack (filled with other bats) as a reaction to an error by his players? 2-Eject a coach for throwing a bat against a bat rack as a reaction to a call he disagreed with? 3-Eject a coach for bringing a rulebook on the field, wanting to "discuss" a rule interpretation? 4-Stop to answer a parent's question after the game? Would it matter how they approached you? 5-Ever not wear a chest protector? 1-Maybe. Part would depend on the ages involved. In adult ball, I'd tend to let the players handle that off the field stuff. In kid's ball, that coach is history & should be dismissed from coaching. 2-Yes. That's directed at me or one of my partners & is not OK at any level. 3-Probably. If the coach immediately puts the book away when I tell him to, I'd probably let it go. If not, the purpose is to show up the umpiring crew - Bye. Disagree with the ruling, OK, time for a protest. 4-Yes, if approached in a non-aggressive manner. The other night, I even took the time to speak with a player I had ejected earlier - because the approach was done in a very non-aggressive manner. 5-No, that's going to lead to something that's not the kind of pain I like (grin).
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My answers basically match Steve M
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