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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:59pm
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Agreed.

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "But she didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:13pm
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Agreed.

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "But she didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.
That's a live ball appeal, which means the tag should be part of the appeal after it is said.

Completely verbal would have to wait for dead ball.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:37pm
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yep, has to go more like this:

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "Time, please."
U: "Time's out."
F5: "She didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:04pm
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I was picturing F5 continuing to hold the tag. My apologizes I didn't express that.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:23pm
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I was picturing F5 continuing to hold the tag. My apologizes I didn't express that.
Sure, that is fine. But, these knuckleheads over in the other group advocate calling an out when the defense isn't even appealing.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 03:03pm
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Sure, that is fine. But, these knuckleheads over in the other group advocate calling an out when the defense isn't even appealing.

By "knuckleheads over in the other group" I assume that you mean: Baseball? And if you do, you would be incorrect. Same mechanic also in Baseball.

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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 03:04pm
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By "knuckleheads over in the other group" I assume that you mean: Baseball? And if you do, you would be incorrect. Same mechanic also in Baseball.

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Old Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:37pm
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That's a live ball appeal, which means the tag should be part of the appeal after it is said.

Completely verbal would have to wait for dead ball.
Citation? It wasn't completely verbal she applied the tag. I don't think the order matters here. (As opposed to judging that she knew what she was doing when she applied the tag.)
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:44pm
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Runner slides in at 3B.
Tag is applied.
BU: "Safe!"
Tag is held on runner as F5 says, "she left early"
BU: "Out!"
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:56pm
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Runner slides in at 3B.
Tag is applied.
BU: "Safe!"
Tag is held on runner as F5 says, "she left early"
BU: "Out!"
On that we all agree. Here's where I think there may be some disagreement.

Runner slides in at 3B.
Tag is applied but not held.
BU: "Safe!"
Without hesitation F5 turns to BU and says that was an appeal for leaving early.
Me: "Out!"
Some of you: **Crickets**
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