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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:28pm
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You Make The Call: One Out, R1 on 2nd base. Fly ball caught by F8, (R1 leaves before F8 touched the ball) F8 throws to F5 who tags R1 just after she slides into 3rd base.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:42pm
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If you judge her to be safe at 3rd, she's safe... maybe there'll be an appeal at 2nd, maybe not.

Trick question?
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:45pm
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Not a trick.

There are actual Human Umpires who think that this should be an out. That the only person who needs think it is an appeal is the umpire.

Quite an amazing discussion over on the NFHS Softball Umpire group on FB.

Who knew people thought this?
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:46pm
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If you judge her to be safe at 3rd, she's safe... maybe there'll be an appeal at 2nd, maybe not.

Trick question?
ditto
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:47pm
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Scary... any OC with any sense would go berzerk if we made that call.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:53pm
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If you judge her to be safe at 3rd, she's safe... maybe there'll be an appeal at 2nd, maybe not.

Trick question?
Must the appeal take place at 2nd?
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:55pm
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Must the appeal take place at 2nd?
No, but the appeal actually has to take place. ;-)
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:59pm
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Agreed.

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "But she didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:13pm
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Agreed.

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "But she didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.
That's a live ball appeal, which means the tag should be part of the appeal after it is said.

Completely verbal would have to wait for dead ball.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:37pm
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yep, has to go more like this:

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "Time, please."
U: "Time's out."
F5: "She didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:04pm
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I was picturing F5 continuing to hold the tag. My apologizes I didn't express that.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:23pm
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I was picturing F5 continuing to hold the tag. My apologizes I didn't express that.
Sure, that is fine. But, these knuckleheads over in the other group advocate calling an out when the defense isn't even appealing.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 03:03pm
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Sure, that is fine. But, these knuckleheads over in the other group advocate calling an out when the defense isn't even appealing.

By "knuckleheads over in the other group" I assume that you mean: Baseball? And if you do, you would be incorrect. Same mechanic also in Baseball.

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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 03:04pm
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By "knuckleheads over in the other group" I assume that you mean: Baseball? And if you do, you would be incorrect. Same mechanic also in Baseball.

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NO, LOL

I mean the Knuckleheads in the NFHS Softball Umpire Facebook Group.

Astonishing amount of knuckleheadery.
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Old Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:31pm
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NO, LOL

I mean the Knuckleheads in the NFHS Softball Umpire Facebook Group.

Astonishing amount of knuckleheadery.

JWWashburn:

Then I am one of those knuckleheads, LOL!

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