You Make The Call

[Altor]

Originally Posted by jmkupka

If you judge her to be safe at 3rd, she's safe... maybe there'll be an appeal at 2nd, maybe not.

Trick question?

Must the appeal take place at 2nd?

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Altor

Must the appeal take place at 2nd?

No, but the appeal actually has to take place. ;-)

[Altor]

Agreed.

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "But she didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Altor

Agreed.

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "But she didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.

That's a live ball appeal, which means the tag should be part of the appeal after it is said.

Completely verbal would have to wait for dead ball.

[jmkupka]

yep, has to go more like this:

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "Time, please."
U: "Time's out."
F5: "She didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.

[Altor]

I was picturing F5 continuing to hold the tag. My apologizes I didn't express that.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Altor

I was picturing F5 continuing to hold the tag. My apologizes I didn't express that.

Sure, that is fine. But, these knuckleheads over in the other group advocate calling an out when the defense isn't even appealing.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

That's a live ball appeal, which means the tag should be part of the appeal after it is said.

Completely verbal would have to wait for dead ball.

Citation? It wasn't completely verbal she applied the tag. I don't think the order matters here. (As opposed to judging that she knew what she was doing when she applied the tag.)

[jmkupka]

Runner slides in at 3B.
Tag is applied.
BU: "Safe!"
Tag is held on runner as F5 says, "she left early"
BU: "Out!"

[youngump]

Originally Posted by jmkupka

Runner slides in at 3B.
Tag is applied.
BU: "Safe!"
Tag is held on runner as F5 says, "she left early"
BU: "Out!"

On that we all agree. Here's where I think there may be some disagreement.

Runner slides in at 3B.
Tag is applied but not held.
BU: "Safe!"
Without hesitation F5 turns to BU and says that was an appeal for leaving early.
Me: "Out!"
Some of you: **Crickets**