You Make The Call

[jwwashburn]

You Make The Call: One Out, R1 on 2nd base. Fly ball caught by F8, (R1 leaves before F8 touched the ball) F8 throws to F5 who tags R1 just after she slides into 3rd base.

[jmkupka]

If you judge her to be safe at 3rd, she's safe... maybe there'll be an appeal at 2nd, maybe not.

Trick question?

[jwwashburn]

Not a trick.

There are actual Human Umpires who think that this should be an out. That the only person who needs think it is an appeal is the umpire.

Quite an amazing discussion over on the NFHS Softball Umpire group on FB.

Who knew people thought this?

[jmkupka]

Scary... any OC with any sense would go berzerk if we made that call.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by jmkupka

If you judge her to be safe at 3rd, she's safe... maybe there'll be an appeal at 2nd, maybe not.

Trick question?

ditto

[Altor]

Originally Posted by jmkupka

If you judge her to be safe at 3rd, she's safe... maybe there'll be an appeal at 2nd, maybe not.

Trick question?

Must the appeal take place at 2nd?

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Altor

Must the appeal take place at 2nd?

No, but the appeal actually has to take place. ;-)

[Altor]

Agreed.

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "But she didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Altor

Agreed.

R1 slides into 3B. F5 applies tag. U signals safe.
F5: "But she didn't tag up."
U bangs the out.

That's a live ball appeal, which means the tag should be part of the appeal after it is said.

Completely verbal would have to wait for dead ball.