Charged Conference

[northbendon]

There is no charged defensive conference that’s what we’re debating.



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[RKBUmp]

Originally Posted by northbendon

There is no charged defensive conference that’s what we’re debating.



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There is nothing in the rule restricting runners to their bases during any time out. And no, it is not a charged conference if they do meet during a defensive timeout. I'm pretty sure there is even a test question on the subject.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by northbendon

There is no charged defensive conference that’s what we’re debating.

That's just part of the rule that grants the other team a conference. Before you get to that point, read the definition of a charged conference (under rule 2).

It says that a charged conference is when a team "asks for and is granted time out to meet with team personnel".

In the scenario being debated, which team asked for time out? Which team did not? Which one of those meets the charged conference definition?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by BretMan

That's just part of the rule that grants the other team a conference. Before you get to that point, read the definition of a charged conference (under rule 2).

It says that a charged conference is when a team "asks for and is granted time out to meet with team personnel".

Not really. The rule has a quantifier that notes it is when a coach or bench/dugout personnel request and is granted time. That did not happen in this case

In the scenario being debated, which team asked for time out? Which team did not? Which one of those meets the charged conference definition?

Being granted time doesn't make a conference. In this case, there was no charged conference to be had.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Being granted time doesn't make a conference. In this case, there was no charged conference to be had.

Right. I didn't mean to imply that there was one (maybe I just didn't make that point very well).

My point was that:

1) What the defense was doing wasn't a charged conference, so the part of the rule about the other team also having a conference doesn't even apply.

2) What the offense was doing didn't meet the definition of a charged conference (they weren't the ones who requested time out).

In summary: NOBODY gets a charged conference!

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by northbendon

There is no charged defensive conference that’s what we’re debating.

So the batter strokes a foul ball deep into the left field corner. As F7 goes down there to retrieve the ball, the first base coach calls the runner from second over to near first base to tell her something. Then she heads back to second base and is standing on it well before the ball is returned to F1 in the circle. Should that be an offensive conference?

F8 is having trouble with the setting sun, so she requests Time to run over to the dugout to get a visor and/or some sunglasses. During that time, the third base coach calls the batter up to her to whisper a few words into her ear. By the time F8 is back in position, the batter is in the box ready for the next pitch.

Runner at third breaks for home on an attempted squeeze, but the batter swings away and fouls the ball over the backstop, and the PU has no replacements in his/her bag. As he/she goes to the home dugout to get a new ball, the runner at third returns and stands in the third base box to talk to the coach about signals. She stays there until the PU hands a new ball to F2, and F2 throws it to F1. F1 goes to the back of the circle to make a quick grab of the rosin bag, and as she heads toward the pitcher's plate, the runner returns to third base.

Don't get hung up on the fact that a runner vacates her base or a batter leaves the area of the batter's box when there's a significant delay in the game or the defense requests Time to do something that doesn't meet the definition of a defensive conference. When there is a delay or Time is granted to the defense, nothing in the rules (with the exception of NCAA) states that offensive players cannot talk to coaches.