Charged Conference?

5 sport ref · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 07:10am

At a varsity double-header last Saturday the first base coach, after her team made the third out, ran out to the pitcher's mound and smoothed the landing area. She then rubbed the dust of the ball then handed the ball and talked to the pitcher. I guess it is their supestition. Never saw it before and couldn't find any against it in the rule book. The defensive conference rule doensn't come into play because time wasn't called but I don't think the coach should be out there talking to her pitcher before the warm up pitches are started. Your thoughts?

mick · #2 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 07:47am

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Originally posted by 5 sport ref
At a varsity double-header last Saturday the first base coach, after her team made the third out, ran out to the pitcher's mound and smoothed the landing area. She then rubbed the dust of the ball then handed the ball and talked to the pitcher. I guess it is their supestition. Never saw it before and couldn't find any against it in the rule book. The defensive conference rule doensn't come into play because time wasn't called but I don't think the coach should be out there talking to her pitcher before the warm up pitches are started. Your thoughts?

5 sport ref,
What could it hurt? They are still on the 60 second clock.
Another option could be to ask the ump to fix the mound while the coach spoke to the pitcher on the sidelines.

mick

Skahtboi · #3 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 08:56am

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Originally posted by mick

What could it hurt? They are still on the 60 second clock.
Another option could be to ask the ump to fix the mound while the coach spoke to the pitcher on the sidelines.
mick

There's a mound out there in the pitching circle? What is this sport coming to?

mick · #4 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 09:29am

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Originally posted by Skahtboi

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Originally posted by mick

What could it hurt? They are still on the 60 second clock.
Another option could be to ask the ump to fix the mound while the coach spoke to the pitcher on the sidelines.
mick

There's a mound out there in the pitching circle? What is this sport coming to?

Got me again !
Busted !

mick

FUBLUE · #5 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 10:00am

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Originally posted by 5 sport ref
At a varsity double-header last Saturday the first base coach, after her team made the third out, ran out to the pitcher's mound and smoothed the landing area. She then rubbed the dust of the ball then handed the ball and talked to the pitcher. I guess it is their supestition. Never saw it before and couldn't find any against it in the rule book. The defensive conference rule doensn't come into play because time wasn't called but I don't think the coach should be out there talking to her pitcher before the warm up pitches are started. Your thoughts?

I heard of a game last year where the umpire called a ball on the first batter every time the coach touched the ball after the inning was over. He even went as far as to start counting seconds, and for every second over 60 he was calling a ball on the batter.

Personally, I don't have a problem, as long as the game isn't being delayed.

Steve M · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 10:30am

Tony,
That's a relatively common practice - it is not a conference unless they take "too" long.

chuck chopper · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 11:40am

I was even told about 6 years ago by an ASA clinician that (Oklahoma) didn't want us touching the ball either. Throw it down into the circle. I used to get it, stand in the circle, and hand it to the next pitcher. This was my way of saying "hurry up, get out here & take you warm ups" without actually saying it.

kellerumps · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 11:46am

As long as the coach doesn't hold up the game.....Leave them alone. That's no different than the coach calling for a quick defensive huddle BEFORE they take the field.

FU.....Who was insane enough to come up with that ruling? How long did the coach last before they came unglued and were tossed?

FUBLUE · #9 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 12:44pm

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Originally posted by kellerumps
As long as the coach doesn't hold up the game.....Leave them alone. That's no different than the coach calling for a quick defensive huddle BEFORE they take the field.

FU.....Who was insane enough to come up with that ruling? How long did the coach last before they came unglued and were tossed?

Coach was an umpire that knew the game umpire was an idiot and just stopped going to the mound...he would talk to the pitcher as we walked across the diamond.

CecilOne · #10 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 08:09pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FUBLUE

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Originally posted by kellerumps

Coach was an umpire that knew the game umpire was an idiot and just stopped going to the mound...he would talk to the pitcher as we walked across the diamond.

There's a mound out there in the pitching circle? What is this sport coming to?

FUBLUE · #11 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 14, 2004, 08:57pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CecilOne

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Originally posted by FUBLUE

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Originally posted by kellerumps

Coach was an umpire that knew the game umpire was an idiot and just stopped going to the mound...he would talk to the pitcher as we walked across the diamond.

There's a mound out there in the pitching circle? What is this sport coming to?

I can say "mound" and not be incorrect--the diamond in question has about a six inch rise where th pitching plate is located. Something about drainage or something like that.

3afan · #12 (**permalink**) Thu Apr 15, 2004, 04:28pm

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... ask the ump to fix the mound ....
mick

NEVER - we are umpires, not groundskeepers ... but it would be interesting for a coach to ask me to do so. :-)

mick · #13 (**permalink**) Thu Apr 15, 2004, 04:45pm

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Originally posted by mick

... ask the ump to fix the mound ....
mick

NEVER - we are umpires, not groundskeepers ... but it would be interesting for a coach to ask me to do so. :-)

3afan,
Well, in my games, if the *circle* needs some work, I call time, and I either do it, or have it done (often by the Home team).
We play in an area where the teams play for the privilege of using, what I consider, unprepared fields.
mick

Ed Maeder · #14 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2004, 10:21pm

Charged Conference doesn't come into play until the umpire declares the ball live to start a half inning. Why bother with a coach if the team hasn't used there minute or five pitches. If he isn't gone and holds up the game he just used one when you declare it live. For that matter would you tell the offensive coach not to talk to the on deck batter while they are in the on deck circle before the ball is declared live.

DownTownTonyBrown · #15 (**permalink**) Sat Apr 17, 2004, 11:56am

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Originally posted by chuck chopper
I was even told about 6 years ago by an ASA clinician that (Oklahoma) didn't want us touching the ball either. Throw it down into the circle. I used to get it, stand in the circle, and hand it to the next pitcher. This was my way of saying "hurry up, get out here & take you warm ups" without actually saying it.

Similar.
Had a pitcher arrive at the circle with me holding and ready to her toss the ball. She asked that I just drop it and let her pick it up. Flabbergasted, I said okay, dropped it, and left.

I think I came back later accidently and tossed her the ball only to have her knock it to the ground so she could pick it up.... hot potato!

Superstition beats congenialty. Pitchers are a bunch of head cases.

[Edited by DownTownTonyBrown on Apr 17th, 2004 at 12:58 PM]