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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 12:10pm
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From the March “clarificatons” about JO pool play:
An EP can be a pinch runner for anyone.
However our Re-entry Rule would still be in effect.
The EP would be considered a substitute for the person they are running so the person who they run for and the EP running will have one more reentry.
The EP is now tied to that person and can only pinch run for that person.
Once they have used up their re-entry they still may bat and play defense but can no longer be a pinch runner.
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Presumably, the EP does not use a re-entry when afterward batting in her original EP spot, as she never left the game.
That means she can run for that other twice.

Example, Annabelle an EP, runs for Beatrice. Later, Beatrice is replaced by Clarissa.
1) Does “can only pinch run for that person” mean Annabelle cannot run for Clarissa. It would seem so, because it says “person”.

What happens if the "anyone" spot comes up again and the "anyone" player has already used re-entry?
2) Continuing, Beatrice re-enters and bats again.
If Annabelle runs for Beatrice again, does that mean Clarissa must replace her next time that batting spot comes up?

3) What about if no Clarissa or other subs, is Annabelle trying to run for Beatrice again an illegal re-entry for Annabelle? It seems so.

OK, 2 & 3 might be TWP, but is anything with a new rule after last year's version?
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:02pm
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Do you know how hard it is to create a post with multiple questions which gets no response?

I guess there have been others, but ...

Happy Easter anyway !!
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2018, 06:34pm
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From the March “clarificatons” about JO pool play:
An EP can be a pinch runner for anyone.
However our Re-entry Rule would still be in effect.
The EP would be considered a substitute for the person they are running so the person who they run for and the EP running will have one more reentry.


Well, no it isn't one more, it is just a re-entry

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The EP is now tied to that person and can only pinch run for that person.
Once they have used up their re-entry they still may bat and play defense but can no longer be a pinch runner.
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Never cared for this rule in general.
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Old Fri May 04, 2018, 06:31am
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From the Clarifications:
"An EP can be a pinch runner for anyone. However our Re-entry Rule would still be in effect. The EP would be considered a substitute for the person they are running so the person who they run for and the EP running will have one more reentry. The EP is now tied to that person and can only pinch run for that person. Once they have used up their re-entry they still may bat and play defense but can no longer be a pinch runner. . "

Example, Annabelle an EP, runs for Beatrice. Later, Beatrice is replaced by Clarissa.

I understand the "person" bolded above to mean a batting order slot, not literally "person".
So, “can only pinch run for that person” does not mean Annabelle cannot run for Clarissa.
Do you agree?
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Old Fri May 04, 2018, 06:39am
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From the March “clarificatons” about JO pool play:
An EP can be a pinch runner for anyone.
However our Re-entry Rule would still be in effect.
The EP would be considered a substitute for the person they are running so the person who they run for and the EP running will have one more reentry.

What happens if the "anyone" spot comes up again and the "anyone" player has already used re-entry?

Annabelle runs for Beatrice, then Beatrice re-enters and bats again.
1) If Annabelle runs for Beatrice again, does that mean a legal sub must replace Annabelle next time that batting spot comes up?
2) What happens if there are no more subs? Shorthanded?
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Old Wed May 09, 2018, 12:36pm
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We have our first USA tournament this coming weekend. I'm dreading the clusters that this rule is going to cause. Coaches don't know the rule, umpires don't know the rule.

I do have a question, but maybe no one is answering questions because nobody knows...

Question - coach used a CR for F1 or F2 which was a risk based on the fact that CR might be due up to bat. Coach realizes this when there is 1 or 2 outs and now wants to insert a "pinch runner" for F1 or F2, thus removing the CR from the base so as not to take an out when she is due to bat. Allow?

Remember - An EP can be a pinch runner for anyone.

When exactly would the player that the CR is running for be declared out? Who would notify the umpire? Could the coach ask for time and state he has a "pinch runner" for the F1 or F2 that had the CR? Would the offense simply try to skip over that batter and hope it wasn't noticed?

[sigh...]
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