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Old Fri Feb 09, 2018, 10:16am
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If a coach handed you a line-up card with 13 names on it and there were only 9 players present, are you accepting it?
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Old Fri Feb 09, 2018, 12:31pm
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Yes I accept it.
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Old Fri Feb 09, 2018, 01:00pm
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If a coach handed you a line-up card with 13 names on it and there were only 9 players present, are you accepting it?
There are a lot of those, especially with coaches who use preprinted lineup forms and fill in that day's players.
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Old Fri Feb 09, 2018, 02:04pm
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don't think I've ever counted the number of players in the dugout....
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Old Fri Feb 09, 2018, 09:28pm
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don't think I've ever counted the number of players in the dugout....
Then how do you know they have enough to start?
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Old Mon Feb 12, 2018, 09:50am
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If a coach handed you a line-up card with 13 names on it and there were only 9 players present, are you accepting it?
Absolutely. It is usual that the JV team is playing on another near-by field and the coach will give some of the JV players varsity playing time if conditions allow or require. So, it is usual that some of the listed subs are on the JV team.

Now, admittedly, having ALL of the subs on the JV team would not be expected, but I'd allow it.
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Old Mon Feb 12, 2018, 08:27pm
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If a coach handed you a line-up card with 13 names on it and there were only 9 players present, are you accepting it?
I've always told coaches that unless you have a participation rule from the league or school, list your entire school roster if you have to as you never get penalized by having too many players listed. Especially if you have to suspend a game to be resumed as you cannot change the lineup(may vary state to state here).
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Old Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:43pm
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Not a fan. Ever have a coach try to sub someone who was not there?

IMO, it just isn't necessary to have an entire roster listed on a line-up card. Also, I believe it is ludicrous to penalize a team in any manner for adding a roster player to the line-up card.
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:18am
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Not a fan. Ever have a coach try to sub someone who was not there?

IMO, it just isn't necessary to have an entire roster listed on a line-up card. Also, I believe it is ludicrous to penalize a team in any manner for adding a roster player to the line-up card.
And NOW we get back to my original thought...it's not necessary, except for the fact that NFHS rules require it. I missed this test question. I answered False.
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:31am
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And NOW we get back to my original thought...it's not necessary, except for the fact that NFHS rules require it. I missed this test question. I answered False.
Just goes to show that you are smarter than the NFHS rule makers.
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:15am
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If I recall correctly, when nfhs made the new rule about a warning being issued and restrictions for adding players after the lineup was submitted they said while it had been common courtesy to list all your players, many coaches had been needlessly delaying games by listing only thier starters.
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:29pm
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If I recall correctly, when nfhs made the new rule about a warning being issued and restrictions for adding players after the lineup was submitted they said while it had been common courtesy to list all your players, many coaches had been needlessly delaying games by listing only thier starters.
What delay?
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2018, 03:31pm
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And NOW we get back to my original thought...it's not necessary, except for the fact that NFHS rules require it. I missed this test question. I answered False.
Hey, teebob,

Did you know right away which question(s) you got wrong? In NH, we take our test on-line. I took mine today and got a 98. But I don't know which 2 questions I got wrong. I won't be able to check my results for about a month.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 03:53pm
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At the end of the online test, it should tell you which rules were applied in the ones you get wrong.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 06:18pm
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At the end of the online test, it should tell you which rules were applied in the ones you get wrong.
I didn't see any rules references. Not in the screen that came up after my submission or on the e-mail confirmation they send out. I only got the score percentage.

Once our test period is complete, we can go in and "review" the test. At that point I'll know which questions I got wrong. They might include references at that point.

I recorded all my rule references on the paper copy of the test that was handed out at our annual meeting. Curious to know if I actually got them wrong or flubbed up picking the incorrect circle on the test.

I'm assuming there are no "mistake" answers on this test like there is on the USA exam.
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