game management strategies

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

GHSA (our Georgia High School Association) doesn't allow protests; the bad news is that too many games have bad rulings enforced by umpires that simply don't know the rules. I wish there was the same process of requiring a resolution by the book; it would fix some of the bad results, and force more rules knowledge and accountability by those umpires.

I started this for a HS situation, but hoped it was generic enough for good advice and I was right (except Tom ).

In the no protest games, would you do the same thing as NCAA anyway?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I started this for a HS situation, but hoped it was generic enough for good advice and I was right (except Tom ).

In the no protest games, would you do the same thing as NCAA anyway?

Actually, Tom raises a good point. And being under the gun in the middle of the field certainly doesn't help, especially for those who don't use the rule book regularly

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Actually, Tom raises a good point. And being under the gun in the middle of the field certainly doesn't help, especially for those who don't use the rule book regularly

One thing that may help is if you do decide to go this route, ask the coach what he/she read in the rule book that makes him/her think that. Have him/her point out the rule in question, rather than indulging in an open-ended "Show me" fishing expedition. After all, the coach is the one disputing it, let him/her have the burden of proof.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Actually, Tom raises a good point.

And Tom and I are capable of friendly banter.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

And being under the gun in the middle of the field certainly doesn't help, especially for those who don't use the rule book regularly

I wouldn't know.

[CecilOne]

OK, now that we have a basis, here is the real problem.
Partner agrees with the erroneous coach and also continues to insist on the wrong rule.

[RKBUmp]

is partneralso discussing rule with coach?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

is partneralso discussing rule with coach?

Yes, openly.

[RKBUmp]

Time to have a little chat with partner and assignor. Had one a few years ago who went running over to a coach between innings and told him I did something wrong. Walk to cars after game was not pleasant, told him he was dead wrong both on his rule interpretation and in discussing it with the coach. Told him he needed to call our umpire coordinator and discuss it with him.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Yes, openly.

Partner throwing you under the bus, and wrong about the rule?

Yes, I would bring out the book, prove both coach and partner wrong, and THEN tell partner in postgame he is a POS, and then the assignor about the POS.

Having said that, most are scared of me (and I'm often assignor or assistant to the assignor in college), so it doesn't happen; but if I were you, that's how I would handle.

Don't refuse to work with that partner; don't tie the assignor's hands. But any good assignor will only pair you again if he has no other option (and you want to be his savior, not his problem).

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

And Tom and I are capable of friendly banter.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

...good advice.. (except Tom )....

Hey, now!