Malicious contact

[BlueDevilRef]

I think that rule then and pardon my French is bullshit. On what grounds can you eject if you don't have enough to have an out and a dead ball? The two should be inclusive to each other

[teebob21]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

I think that rule then and pardon my French is bullshit. On what grounds can you eject if you don't have enough to have an out and a dead ball? The two should be inclusive to each other

Rule 1: Ejected Participant - A team representative removed from the game by the umpire, usually for an unsportsmanlike act or conduct.

Trucking a player without the ball just because there is no other penalty in the ASA rules = unsportsmanlike conduct. Now, I don't disagree with you that perhaps there should be an additional penalty for a bush league move like this, but unless someone gives a rule cite, there simply isn't one.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

I think that rule then and pardon my French is bullshit. On what grounds can you eject if you don't have enough to have an out and a dead ball? The two should be inclusive to each other

Ever hear of unsportsmanlike conduct?


They used to have an out in the old regime when MB & HP justified the call with a long stretch of rule interpretations.

In 2009, I proposed a change which removed the words "has the ball" which would result in an INT ruling including an out for the runner who creates flagrant contact with a possible subsequent ejection.

[Umpire@1]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Ever hear of unsportsmanlike conduct?


They used to have an out in the old regime when MB & HP justified the call with a long stretch of rule interpretations.

In 2009, I proposed a change which removed the words "has the ball" which would result in an INT ruling including an out for the runner who creates flagrant contact with a possible subsequent ejection.

I agree 100%. Unsportsmanlike Conduct, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, Unsportsmanlike Conduct. Use some common sense. You see a player with or without the ball and they get intentionaly taken by a offensive player just to be taking her out. And she should be called out and ejected. RS 13 or what ever you want to say. But I am ejecting and calling out.

[RKBUmp]

If you are working an asa game and the fielder does not have the ball you have no rule basis to call an out.