NFL Rule Change

[OKREF]

Extra points will be snapped from the 15 yd line. 2 point conversations will stay the same.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Extra points will be snapped from the 15 yd line. 2 point conversations will stay the same.

For a second there, I thought that was about phone rates.

Know any more details? Does that mean they're allowed to score only 1 point if they snap from the 15, and only 2 points (barring a safety) if they snap from the 3? That cuts out the fake kick.

It's just more continuation of the diddling around that's been done w the try forever, as I wrote around the turn of the century. Nobody seems to want to take the simple step of just getting rid of the try. It's like its existence is sacrosanct, but its details aren't.

[Big2Cat]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

For a second there, I thought that was about phone rates.

Know any more details? Does that mean they're allowed to score only 1 point if they snap from the 15, and only 2 points (barring a safety) if they snap from the 3? That cuts out the fake kick.

The NFL snaps from the 2. 2 point conversions would still be at the 2 yard line. And yes, 1 point for a kick from the 15.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

The NFL snaps from the 2. 2 point conversions would still be at the 2 yard line. And yes, 1 point for a kick from the 15.

Meaning 0 points for a kick after choosing an original spot between the 2 & the 15? Will they be allowed to revoke their decision after a penalty?

[Rich]

It would be more entertaining if they forced the kick to be done at whatever angle the TD was scored, the way they do with a try in rugby.

[APG]

They made a 99 percent play into a 92 percent play. Cool...I guess

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Rich

It would be more entertaining if they forced the kick to be done at whatever angle the TD was scored, the way they do with a try in rugby.

It'd be much more entertaining if they'd just give 7 for the original TD & kicked off. Shave some time off games by cutting out the least interesting & fluke-prone parts of it.

[SNIPERBBB]

For the game time part...wouldnt it be better just to use the play clock? If the offensive team gets a delay penalty, they lose the PA attempt.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

For the game time part...wouldnt it be better just to use the play clock? If the offensive team gets a delay penalty, they lose the PA attempt.

Until ~30 yrs. ago Canadian football counted the time of a try (convert) toward the period time, although a period was extended to complete one.

I don't see why it would be better for overall game time purposes to count the time of the try than it would to just skip it. The try just came from one of the ways to resume play after the ball became dead behind a goal line.

[bwburke94]

Also, keep in mind that the NCAA rule where conversions can be returned by the defense is now part of the NFL rulebook as well. This also means a one-point safety is more reasonably possible.

[Rich]

Eliminating the try would eliminate the most infuriating part of the viewing experience:

Try

Commercial

Kickoff

Commercial

It's even worse live (in person). They come back for a play that takes a few seconds and then take another 3-4 minute break.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Rich

Eliminating the try would eliminate the most infuriating part of the viewing experience:

Try

Commercial

Kickoff

Commercial

It's even worse live (in person). They come back for a play that takes a few seconds and then take another 3-4 minute break.

What makes you think they wouldn't simply replace removing the actual Try, with just another(or extended) string of commercials? To paraphrase the Duke of Windsor's travel advice, "When they line up for a try, find a bathroom", that will work whether you're at home or in the stadium.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Rich

Eliminating the try would eliminate the most infuriating part of the viewing experience:

Try

Commercial

Kickoff

Commercial

It's even worse live (in person). They come back for a play that takes a few seconds and then take another 3-4 minute break.

All the reason why the try will remain in place. No one that is paying the bills is complaining about the length of NFL games

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by ajmc

What makes you think they wouldn't simply replace removing the actual Try, with just another(or extended) string of commercials?

If they did, they'd at least be making $, which is more than the try makes.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by APG

All the reason why the try will remain in place. No one that is paying the bills is complaining about the length of NFL games

How do you know that's true? And even if it were true, how do you know there wouldn't be people who would be paying, if the time taken were less?

The XFL shortened their games to fit TV.