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OKREF Tue May 19, 2015 05:19pm

NFL Rule Change
 
Extra points will be snapped from the 15 yd line. 2 point conversations will stay the same.

Robert Goodman Wed May 20, 2015 12:54am

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 962642)
Extra points will be snapped from the 15 yd line. 2 point conversations will stay the same.

For a second there, I thought that was about phone rates.

Know any more details? Does that mean they're allowed to score only 1 point if they snap from the 15, and only 2 points (barring a safety) if they snap from the 3? That cuts out the fake kick.

It's just more continuation of the diddling around that's been done w the try forever, as I wrote around the turn of the century. Nobody seems to want to take the simple step of just getting rid of the try. It's like its existence is sacrosanct, but its details aren't.

Big2Cat Fri May 22, 2015 08:36am

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Originally Posted by Robert Goodman (Post 962651)
For a second there, I thought that was about phone rates.

Know any more details? Does that mean they're allowed to score only 1 point if they snap from the 15, and only 2 points (barring a safety) if they snap from the 3? That cuts out the fake kick.


The NFL snaps from the 2. 2 point conversions would still be at the 2 yard line. And yes, 1 point for a kick from the 15.

Robert Goodman Fri May 22, 2015 02:33pm

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Originally Posted by Big2Cat (Post 962788)
The NFL snaps from the 2. 2 point conversions would still be at the 2 yard line. And yes, 1 point for a kick from the 15.

Meaning 0 points for a kick after choosing an original spot between the 2 & the 15? Will they be allowed to revoke their decision after a penalty?

Rich Fri May 22, 2015 03:13pm

It would be more entertaining if they forced the kick to be done at whatever angle the TD was scored, the way they do with a try in rugby.

APG Fri May 22, 2015 03:32pm

They made a 99 percent play into a 92 percent play. Cool...I guess

Robert Goodman Fri May 22, 2015 08:54pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 962819)
It would be more entertaining if they forced the kick to be done at whatever angle the TD was scored, the way they do with a try in rugby.

It'd be much more entertaining if they'd just give 7 for the original TD & kicked off. Shave some time off games by cutting out the least interesting & fluke-prone parts of it.

SNIPERBBB Sun May 24, 2015 07:02am

For the game time part...wouldnt it be better just to use the play clock? If the offensive team gets a delay penalty, they lose the PA attempt.

Robert Goodman Sun May 24, 2015 05:37pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 962862)
For the game time part...wouldnt it be better just to use the play clock? If the offensive team gets a delay penalty, they lose the PA attempt.

Until ~30 yrs. ago Canadian football counted the time of a try (convert) toward the period time, although a period was extended to complete one.

I don't see why it would be better for overall game time purposes to count the time of the try than it would to just skip it. The try just came from one of the ways to resume play after the ball became dead behind a goal line.

bwburke94 Mon May 25, 2015 12:58am

Also, keep in mind that the NCAA rule where conversions can be returned by the defense is now part of the NFL rulebook as well. This also means a one-point safety is more reasonably possible.

Rich Mon May 25, 2015 12:06pm

Eliminating the try would eliminate the most infuriating part of the viewing experience:

Try

Commercial

Kickoff

Commercial

It's even worse live (in person). They come back for a play that takes a few seconds and then take another 3-4 minute break.

ajmc Mon May 25, 2015 12:52pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 962900)
Eliminating the try would eliminate the most infuriating part of the viewing experience:

Try

Commercial

Kickoff

Commercial

It's even worse live (in person). They come back for a play that takes a few seconds and then take another 3-4 minute break.

What makes you think they wouldn't simply replace removing the actual Try, with just another(or extended) string of commercials? To paraphrase the Duke of Windsor's travel advice, "When they line up for a try, find a bathroom", that will work whether you're at home or in the stadium.

APG Mon May 25, 2015 01:43pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 962900)
Eliminating the try would eliminate the most infuriating part of the viewing experience:

Try

Commercial

Kickoff

Commercial

It's even worse live (in person). They come back for a play that takes a few seconds and then take another 3-4 minute break.

All the reason why the try will remain in place. No one that is paying the bills is complaining about the length of NFL games

Robert Goodman Mon May 25, 2015 01:54pm

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 962902)
What makes you think they wouldn't simply replace removing the actual Try, with just another(or extended) string of commercials?

If they did, they'd at least be making $, which is more than the try makes.

Robert Goodman Mon May 25, 2015 01:56pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 962904)
All the reason why the try will remain in place. No one that is paying the bills is complaining about the length of NFL games

How do you know that's true? And even if it were true, how do you know there wouldn't be people who would be paying, if the time taken were less?

The XFL shortened their games to fit TV.


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