NFL Rule Change

[OKREF]

Extra points will be snapped from the 15 yd line. 2 point conversations will stay the same.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Extra points will be snapped from the 15 yd line. 2 point conversations will stay the same.

For a second there, I thought that was about phone rates.

Know any more details? Does that mean they're allowed to score only 1 point if they snap from the 15, and only 2 points (barring a safety) if they snap from the 3? That cuts out the fake kick.

It's just more continuation of the diddling around that's been done w the try forever, as I wrote around the turn of the century. Nobody seems to want to take the simple step of just getting rid of the try. It's like its existence is sacrosanct, but its details aren't.

[Big2Cat]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

For a second there, I thought that was about phone rates.

Know any more details? Does that mean they're allowed to score only 1 point if they snap from the 15, and only 2 points (barring a safety) if they snap from the 3? That cuts out the fake kick.

The NFL snaps from the 2. 2 point conversions would still be at the 2 yard line. And yes, 1 point for a kick from the 15.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

The NFL snaps from the 2. 2 point conversions would still be at the 2 yard line. And yes, 1 point for a kick from the 15.

Meaning 0 points for a kick after choosing an original spot between the 2 & the 15? Will they be allowed to revoke their decision after a penalty?

[Rich]

It would be more entertaining if they forced the kick to be done at whatever angle the TD was scored, the way they do with a try in rugby.

[APG]

They made a 99 percent play into a 92 percent play. Cool...I guess

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Rich

It would be more entertaining if they forced the kick to be done at whatever angle the TD was scored, the way they do with a try in rugby.

It'd be much more entertaining if they'd just give 7 for the original TD & kicked off. Shave some time off games by cutting out the least interesting & fluke-prone parts of it.

[Rich]

Eliminating the try would eliminate the most infuriating part of the viewing experience:

Try

Commercial

Kickoff

Commercial

It's even worse live (in person). They come back for a play that takes a few seconds and then take another 3-4 minute break.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Rich

Eliminating the try would eliminate the most infuriating part of the viewing experience:

Try

Commercial

Kickoff

Commercial

It's even worse live (in person). They come back for a play that takes a few seconds and then take another 3-4 minute break.

What makes you think they wouldn't simply replace removing the actual Try, with just another(or extended) string of commercials? To paraphrase the Duke of Windsor's travel advice, "When they line up for a try, find a bathroom", that will work whether you're at home or in the stadium.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by ajmc

What makes you think they wouldn't simply replace removing the actual Try, with just another(or extended) string of commercials?

If they did, they'd at least be making $, which is more than the try makes.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Rich

Eliminating the try would eliminate the most infuriating part of the viewing experience:

Try

Commercial

Kickoff

Commercial

It's even worse live (in person). They come back for a play that takes a few seconds and then take another 3-4 minute break.

All the reason why the try will remain in place. No one that is paying the bills is complaining about the length of NFL games

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by APG

All the reason why the try will remain in place. No one that is paying the bills is complaining about the length of NFL games

How do you know that's true? And even if it were true, how do you know there wouldn't be people who would be paying, if the time taken were less?

The XFL shortened their games to fit TV.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

How do you know that's true? And even if it were true, how do you know there wouldn't be people who would be paying, if the time taken were less?

The XFL shortened their games to fit TV.

During the NFL season, regular season games are the highest rated programming on TV. Sunday Night Football is the highest rated program in primetime. The Super Bowl has set or nearly set records consistently for the past 10 years or so. The NFL is a $9 billion plus/year industry. Games have gotten longer...and the people paying the bills DO. NOT. CARE. Longer games mean more opportunities for commercials.

There is no one the NFL really covets that is holding out due to the length of games. The league has networks and advertisers falling over to give them money to show their game/be a sponsor.

As to the XFL...my counter argument is...it was the XFL.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by APG

During the NFL season, regular season games are the highest rated programming on TV. Sunday Night Football is the highest rated program in primetime. The Super Bowl has set or nearly set records consistently for the past 10 years or so. The NFL is a $9 billion plus/year industry. Games have gotten longer...and the people paying the bills DO. NOT. CARE. Longer games mean more opportunities for commercials.

There is no one the NFL really covets that is holding out due to the length of games. The league has networks and advertisers falling over to give them money to show their game/be a sponsor.

But I bet they'd like it even better if they sold the same amount of commercial time for less game time.