Instant Replay in HS Championship Games?

[OKREF]

Replay at high school level, logistically is just to hard. BTW, that was clearly a fumble in the video, and should have been a touchback.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Replay at high school level, logistically is just to hard. BTW, that was clearly a fumble in the video, and should have been a touchback.

Why is it logistically too hard? In states where games are played at a Division 1 college stadium, shouldn't the facilities already exist? I don't know all that goes into implementing an instant replay system...

As I said in the other thread...It's my opinion that replay should be used in the state championship games.

[Adam]

Rich's point is why play the last game under different rules than the rest of the season?

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Adam

Rich's point is why play the last game under different rules than the rest of the season?

Yes, I understand his point. It's not really under different rules...just that they have a better chance of ultimately getting the play right. It's the same concept as them using instant replay for last second shots in basketball. Why not use the available evidence to get it right?

Just to use the play from the game earlier as an example...that play was a huge swing in the game. It was 23-17 Red when the interception happened. After the play was erroneously ruled a touchdown, Red went for two to make it 31-17, instead of it being White ball at the 20 and down by six. It may not have mattered anyways, as red pulled away the rest of the night...but still, there's no way to predict what would have happened.

There will be a play, someday somewhere, that will be called incorrectly on the field and affect the outcome of the game.

[HLin NC]

Why is it logistically too hard? In states where games are played at a Division 1 college stadium, shouldn't the facilities already exist?

You don't really think they leave all those expensive cameras sitting around out in the elements waiting for the next game to come along, do you? And a production truck parked behind every stadium in the country?

The technical equipment sitting in the replay booth is a mere fraction of the equipment necessary to pull off replay. Most state athletic associations aren't going to go to the expense or can't afford to do it. NC plays 8 finals in 3 different stadiums. Time Warner Cable broadcasts & replays the NC games but they are only in the bigger cities. The DVD copy of my state final last year basically used two camera angles, mid-field and a handheld field camera.

As I said previously, bumping to 7 man is more practical and affordable.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

You don't really think they leave all those expensive cameras sitting around out in the elements waiting for the next game to come along, do you? And a production truck parked behind every stadium in the country?

The technical equipment sitting in the replay booth is a mere fraction of the equipment necessary to pull off replay. Most state athletic associations aren't going to go to the expense or can't afford to do it. NC plays 8 finals in 3 different stadiums. Time Warner Cable broadcasts & replays the NC games but they are only in the bigger cities. The DVD copy of my state final last year basically used two camera angles, mid-field and a handheld field camera.

As I said previously, bumping to 7 man is more practical and affordable.

I'm not an idiot. Who owns the buzzer from the booth to the referee on the field? Seems to me all they need is a broadcast with instant replay capability. Correct me if I'm wrong...seems like a plug and play kind of a thing. If you or anyone else can detail the technical side of an instant replay operation, please do so.

Obviously it would be a state by state thing, depending on how the games are broadcast, if at all.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Correct me if I'm wrong...seems like a plug and play kind of a thing. If you or anyone else can detail the technical side of an instant replay operation, please do so.

Not a plug and play.

For an accurate replay system you need a minimum of 7 cameras.....
Midfield (1)
Goal Lines (2)
Sidelines (2)
20 yard-lines (2)

Anything less and you get yourself into situations where you can't possibly get the angles necessary and have to start making exceptions to what is and isn't reviewable. Too much to deal with rules-wise for one game a year.

Add the camera operators, the production crew in the truck, the man upstairs, video monitors upstairs, and all the trimmings, and you have instant replay capabilities.....

And a ton of cost that goes with it. This isn't AV club or local cable access personnel that's operating this.

Replay is not viable and not practical at the High School level.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Yes, I understand his point. It's not really under different rules...just that they have a better chance of ultimately getting the play right. It's the same concept as them using instant replay for last second shots in basketball. Why not use the available evidence to get it right?

Just to use the play from the game earlier as an example...that play was a huge swing in the game. It was 23-17 Red when the interception happened. After the play was erroneously ruled a touchdown, Red went for two to make it 31-17, instead of it being White ball at the 20 and down by six. It may not have mattered anyways, as red pulled away the rest of the night...but still, there's no way to predict what would have happened.

There will be a play, someday somewhere, that will be called incorrectly on the field and affect the outcome of the game.

There already were -- in many other playoff games this year and every year. Forgive me if I don't cry me a river if a call gets missed and the wonders of instant replay don't rush in to make everything right.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Rich

There already were -- in many other playoff games this year and every year. Forgive me if I don't cry me a river if a call gets missed and the wonders of instant replay don't rush in to make everything right.

Consider yourself forgiven. You have your opinion, I have mine. End of story.