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stiffler3492 Thu Nov 21, 2013 01:33pm

Instant Replay in HS Championship Games?
 
Is there any discussion with the NFHS about allowing the use of instant replay at state championship games? Was watching a game (Wisconsin) earlier and saw a play that most likely would have been overturned had instant replay review been available.

Tom.OH Thu Nov 21, 2013 02:58pm

I think it has been talked about in the Ohio championships.

maven Thu Nov 21, 2013 04:19pm

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Originally Posted by Tom.OH (Post 911518)
I think it has been talked about in the Ohio championships.

For football, Tom? Ohio uses the state-adoption (and extremely limited) replay for last shot in basketball, but I've not heard any suggestion for football. Seems like an awful can of worms with absolutely zero rules guidance for implementation.

stiffler3492 Thu Nov 21, 2013 05:01pm

Obviously the NFHS would have to come up with their guidelines first, and then allow each state to adopt it or not. I was just curious...As the coverage of these state title games gets better, there will be a controversial play, somewhere, that will end a game. Then Deadspin will pick it up, and ESPN, and whatever else...Maybe it's just me, but I think it should be used in states that have the capability.

Adam Thu Nov 21, 2013 05:14pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 911544)
Obviously the NFHS would have to come up with their guidelines first,

Ideally, but not necessarily. A lot of states use shot clocks in basketball, for example, with zero guidance or approval from NFHS.

stiffler3492 Thu Nov 21, 2013 05:19pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 911547)
Ideally, but not necessarily. A lot of states use shot clocks in basketball, for example, with zero guidance or approval from NFHS.

Ah, you're right. I didn't think of that.

Rich Thu Nov 21, 2013 05:40pm

Two games so far -- one was 44-15 until the last minute and the other ended 35-0 with a running clock most of the fourth quarter.

Must have been the Black Hawk game (D7) you're talking about. I didn't see that one -- I was working. We worked their second round game and I'm not surprised they ran the table.

stiffler3492 Thu Nov 21, 2013 06:28pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 911550)
Two games so far -- one was 44-15 until the last minute and the other ended 35-0 with a running clock most of the fourth quarter.

Must have been the Black Hawk game (D7) you're talking about. I didn't see that one -- I was working. We worked their second round game and I'm not surprised they ran the table.

It was in the Black Hawk game. The ball must have been hard to follow for your crew. I don't know if I've ever seen anyone run that offense the way they do.

But the play I mentioned above was a catch along the sideline. It was called a catch on the field, but probably would have been reversed had it been reviewed. By no means did it have any major effect on the game, judging by the final score.

Robert Goodman Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:45am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 911558)
It was in the Black Hawk game. The ball must have been hard to follow for your crew. I don't know if I've ever seen anyone run that offense the way they do.

Let me guess...full spin series? Or some other 3- or 4-back mesh?

Rich Fri Nov 22, 2013 01:48am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 911558)
It was in the Black Hawk game. The ball must have been hard to follow for your crew. I don't know if I've ever seen anyone run that offense the way they do.

But the play I mentioned above was a catch along the sideline. It was called a catch on the field, but probably would have been reversed had it been reviewed. By no means did it have any major effect on the game, judging by the final score.

My crew? We didn't work today. I was a spectator at the D6 game and just got done having a few with the WH, who I came down specifically to see.

stiffler3492 Fri Nov 22, 2013 06:54am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 911580)
My crew? We didn't work today. I was a spectator at the D6 game and just got done having a few with the WH, who I came down specifically to see.

No I meant when you did there game a few weeks ago.

stiffler3492 Fri Nov 22, 2013 06:55am

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Originally Posted by Robert Goodman (Post 911577)
Let me guess...full spin series? Or some other 3- or 4-back mesh?

It's an option offense, they do a great job of hiding the ball. The quarterback always takes the snap from under center and sort of leans forward into the line as he's handing to the fullback. I'm amazed they don't fumble more often.

Canned Heat Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:58am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 911585)
It's an option offense, they do a great job of hiding the ball. The quarterback always takes the snap from under center and sort of leans forward into the line as he's handing to the fullback. I'm amazed they don't fumble more often.

Reminds me of Ozaukee's wing T and veer offense somewhat...but with less motion.

I had Arrowhead for the Level 2 game...and had them last year against Germantown. They have got it going on over there.

stiffler3492 Fri Nov 22, 2013 03:29pm

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Originally Posted by Canned Heat (Post 911620)
Reminds me of Ozaukee's wing T and veer offense somewhat...but with less motion.

I had Arrowhead for the Level 2 game...and had them last year against Germantown. They have got it going on over there.

I was there for that one, broadcasting on WTKM (Hartford) I'm in Madison right now actually getting ready for their title game. I'll be bringing up this debate on the pregame show!

Rich Fri Nov 22, 2013 05:04pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 911585)
It's an option offense, they do a great job of hiding the ball. The quarterback always takes the snap from under center and sort of leans forward into the line as he's handing to the fullback. I'm amazed they don't fumble more often.

We didn't have any problems with it. Really good team.

The D3 crew this morning may be the best officiating crew I've ever seen at state.


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