Fake PAT

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Adam

Robert, imagine the play this way.

Standard PAT set up, before the snap, the holder starts a monkey crawl in motion towards the sideline.

Looking injured? Or just acting funny?

The ball is then snapped to the kicker, who throws a scoring pass.

It's not about making anyone laugh. It's about engaging in absurdity to distract from the game at hand in order to utilize that distraction for an advantage.

Similar to a "barking dog" play in basketball, where a player will get down on "all fours" and bark. While everyone looks at him, the team throws a pass to another player who is wide open due to the distraction.

Huh. To me those don't seem materially different than calling out funny signals in preparation for the snap, or to distract a batter in baseball, a golfer in golf, or a shooter in pool or tennis. Of course it's to create distraction, but it doesn't seem much different from all the other ways you'd try to distract an opponent.

It's be different if it were feigning injury.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Looking injured? Or just acting funny?


Huh. To me those don't seem materially different than calling out funny signals in preparation for the snap, or to distract a batter in baseball, a golfer in golf, or a shooter in pool or tennis. Of course it's to create distraction, but it doesn't seem much different from all the other ways you'd try to distract an opponent.

It's be different if it were feigning injury.

So are you ok with the "wrong ball" play?

[HLin NC]

Then there's this.

Hence the wonderful Ignore function on the control panel.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Adam

So are you ok with the "wrong ball" play?

No, because in such cases it's not clear to the other team that a distraction is intended.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Looking injured? Or just acting funny?


Huh. To me those don't seem materially different than calling out funny signals in preparation for the snap, or to distract a batter in baseball, a golfer in golf, or a shooter in pool or tennis. Of course it's to create distraction, but it doesn't seem much different from all the other ways you'd try to distract an opponent.

It's be different if it were feigning injury.

He was feigning mental injury.

[bigjohn]

COMMENT: Football has been and
always will be a game of deception and trickery involving multiple shifts, unusual
formations and creative plays. However, actions or verbiage designed to confuse
the defense into believing there is problem and a snap isn’t imminent is
beyond the scope of sportsmanship and is illegal.


I still say this play falls under 9-9-1 and is a USC!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

He was feigning mental injury.

His coach wasn't feigning, though.