End of Wisconsin - Arizona State game

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You put the ball on the ground, players go after the ball. You think ASU did not think for a few seconds that was a loose ball? And who caused that? The QB who just put the ball on the ground that is who.

Then why doesn't 3-3-2(e)8 apply?

Players do not set the ball on the ground.

I tell my players every practice session to do exactly that. You hear the whistle, you stop what you're doing and leave the ball on the ground.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Then why doesn't 3-3-2(e)8 apply?

I tell my players every practice session to do exactly that. You hear the whistle, you stop what you're doing and leave the ball on the ground.

Yes if there are 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. If there are 15 seconds left at the of the play you get it as quickly as possible to the nearest official so they can get it set. You risking several different things happening to the ball if you don't. This play is a great example of what can happen if you don't do this. There is fault in the officials as well, but the QB is definitely a key contributor.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Then why doesn't 3-3-2(e)8 apply?

Why don't you explain this one to me, because I am still trying to figure out what this has to do with the situation? The clock was not stopped.

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

I tell my players every practice session to do exactly that. You hear the whistle, you stop what you're doing and leave the ball on the ground.

You obviously did not actually read what I said. Players that run no-huddle or speed up offenses often teach their players to hand the officials the ball, so they can get the ball to the line and run a play quickly. If you want to tell your players to do that in the middle of the game that is fine with me. But when you are in hurry up, you will slow down things if you tell them to do that.

Peace

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why don't you explain this one to me, because I am still trying to figure out what this has to do with the situation? The clock was not stopped.

I know, that's the problem. You or someone upthread said players of both teams contributed to delaying the RFP. If that's the case, this provision said the game clock is supposed to be stopped and then started again on the ref's signal.

You obviously did not actually read what I said. Players that run no-huddle or speed up offenses often teach their players to hand the officials the ball, so they can get the ball to the line and run a play quickly. If you want to tell your players to do that in the middle of the game that is fine with me. But when you are in hurry up, you will slow down things if you tell them to do that.

If the player has the ball in his hands close to the dead ball spot, how can putting the ball on the ground slow things down? The official spotting the ball is going to have to come to the dead ball spot and bend down anyway. But meanwhile the player could be getting into position rather than looking or waiting for the official.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

I know, that's the problem. You or someone upthread said players of both teams contributed to delaying the RFP. If that's the case, this provision said the game clock is supposed to be stopped and then started again on the ref's signal.

I have blamed Wisconsin. I did not blame ASU. ASU players were doing what I expected them to do.

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

If the player has the ball in his hands close to the dead ball spot, how can putting the ball on the ground slow things down? The official spotting the ball is going to have to come to the dead ball spot and bend down anyway. But meanwhile the player could be getting into position rather than looking or waiting for the official.

Did the officials use his spot? Obviously not, so give the ball to the person that will spot the ball based on the forward progress the officials have determined. How often do you see a player put the ball forward when they have been ruled down? How often do the officials just leave the ball where the player put the ball down? Never, so thanks for playing.

Peace

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Did the officials use his spot? Obviously not,

I can't tell that from the stills.

so give the ball to the person that will spot the ball based on the forward progress the officials have determined. How often do you see a player put the ball forward when they have been ruled down?

And you're saying it takes more time to move the ball from one position on the ground to a nearby position than it does to take it from some other place to that position?

How often do the officials just leave the ball where the player put the ball down?

In this case they could have. What's the U have to do, touch the ball with his hand to make it official?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

You hear the whistle, you stop what you're doing and leave the ball on the ground.

So YOU are the coach that keeps doing that. I spend an awful lot of time telling kids to cut that crap out.