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Old Thu Sep 26, 2013, 08:24am
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So the AC has to spit juice on you to draw a flag?? Just asking how far you let it go??
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Old Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:40am
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So the AC has to spit juice on you to draw a flag?? Just asking how far you let it go??
Nobody is saying not to flag it. Some are saying that it's absurd that we have to police this though.
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Old Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:55am
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That's true, and those issues are nuts & recent too. Why can't the rules makers just pay att'n to the game?
What world do you live in, Pollyanna?

The only reason those rules are in the book is because someone, somewhere, at some time was having enough of a problem that they felt a rule was needed to address them.
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Old Mon Sep 16, 2013, 08:36am
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What world do you live in, Pollyanna?

The only reason those rules are in the book is because someone, somewhere, at some time was having enough of a problem that they felt a rule was needed to address them.
A "problem"? What "problem"? In the case of tobacco products, it is inconceivable that there could've been a single problem that happened to be caused by each of cigarets, cigars, wet and dry snuff. The products are used so differently that any problem one of them might've caused would not have been caused by others, and yet not caused by similar non-tobacco products.
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Old Mon Sep 16, 2013, 08:54am
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The problem being that coaches freely use chewing tobacco around their players and the NFHS does not want coaches influencing players in this manner. I know it was common with our coaches when I played and many saw it as tacit approval since the coaches did it.
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Old Mon Sep 16, 2013, 09:08am
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The problem being that coaches freely use chewing tobacco around their players and the NFHS does not want coaches influencing players in this manner. I know it was common with our coaches when I played and many saw it as tacit approval since the coaches did it.
But there are probably as many or more people who would disapprove of coaches displaying other vices, such as smoking cannabis or drinking liquor or looking at porn in front of their players, yet there's no Fed rule about doing those. I notice there's not even a Fed rule about nicotine gum (or non-nicotine gum), only tobacco.
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Old Mon Sep 16, 2013, 08:56am
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Unduly celebrating in the end zone is neither a tactical advantage nor a safety issue yet we are charged with stopping it.

I live and grew up in Appalachia. I remember when tobacco reps came to the field house on campus and dropped off boxes of chaw at the coaches office. As student trainer-manager, I usually got a box for myself.
The student smoke hole was in the drive between the gym lobby and the fieldhouse.

It is a new day. I have one school where I know good and well one of the AC's usually has a dip in. I just tell him before the game I don't need to see it. Beyond that, to me it's a personnel issue, not a game officiating issue.
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Old Mon Sep 16, 2013, 09:02am
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Unduly celebrating in the end zone is neither a tactical advantage nor a safety issue yet we are charged with stopping it.
It's thought to engender USC by opponents.
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